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    So, with the push for gun control in full swing, it seems that black rifles and their magazines have skyrocketed in value over the past few weeks. I read that magazines that sold for $14 a few weeks ago were now going for $60+ and finally did a little research earlier. Didn't notice a price increase at the major vendors, but all of them were sold out anyway. My neighbor bought a S&W AR a few months ago for $650, and last time I went back home I hooked him up with about thirty mags and some other goodies. Now, he could sell his rifle and accessories for well over $3000. He called me yesterday and offered to sell some of my surplus mags at $50 apiece while I am deployed. Theoretically, at least, I have around $5k in AR mags alone; not to mention fifty or so Beretta mags that are also out-of-stock online.

    Anyway, I expect that when the next nonsensical Assault Weapon Ban (AWB) goes into effect all "high capacity" magazines will be again stamped with dates and/or "Military/LE use only". Those perfectly legal pre-2013 mags will probably go for even more, unless the anti-gun crowd gets their way and manages to avoid a grandfather clause for existing mags. In that case I will be stuck with a couple of hundred chunks of illegal steel and plastic. So, long story short, I think it is time to make a little cash.

    The last AWB went well in my opinion. Outlawing all those deadly flash suppressors and bayonet lugs curbed crime, and trading my Paratrooper SKS for three Beretta magazines (which were artificially inflated in value to $50 or so each) and $40 was the best financial decision a broke young Private could make. I also finally sold off my AR-15 lower with the AWB-mandated fixed stock (it had the evil separate pistol grip). The carbine upper was sold off years ago to a friend. Its heavy barrel looked outstanding without the lug or suppressor. All the rounds I put through that gun when it was whole were made much less deadly by the AWB-friendly configuration. My NHM-90 is also long gone. It had the separate pistol grip which I was always wary of since most came with the AWB-legal thumbhole stock. Having owned such a possibly illegal weapon for four or five years during the Ban, I am surprised it did not involved itself in a massacre somewhere. Guess I'm lucky like that. Hopefully my sarcasm is evident in the above sentences...

    Being honest, I'm not keeping up with the so-called "national conversation". After recent events, I'd be surprised if we don't get another restrictive--yet useless--law on the books that will do little besides impress ignorant citizens. Sadly enough, I hardly care. Call me jaded or any other number of things, but conversations with fellow gun owners have me believing that AR-15s and their ilk are barely worth fighting for. Personally, I believe that they should be as legal to own as a hunting rifle, but most hunters I know feel differently ("no one needs something like that..."). Even the guy I sold my lower too has displayed his ignorance; being one of the few liberals in the Infantry, he has repeatedly told me he doesn't see why anyone needs a bayonet lug. He seems to forget that those are only one of the features that will be eliminated if...and when...a new Ban in implemented. The sadistic side of me wants to watch him give up his newly built AR if it comes to that. Gun owners themselves are split on this issue, and without them coming together the next Ban will make that of '94 look like a drop in the bucket. I'm heading overseas shortly and have more pressing concerns in the immediate future. Like making sure my selective-fire M4 is ready to shoot some bad guys.

    I notice this board has little activity nowadays, but what are your thoughts on gun control, especially pertaining to black rifles and their kin?

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    I also have quite a few magazines. Right after all this talk started I ordered 10 new metal 30 rounders for $120 shipped. That puts me at about 45 thirty round mags. I may try and sell some of them and see how much I can get. Id like to be able to get a good chunk of change to put towards an MSAR E4 (AUG clone), but then again, I may just keep them.

    As far as "not needing a bayonet lug". I agree. There isnt even a bayonet that fits the standard AR with a carbine length handguard and 16 inch barrel. They were designed for the M16 with its 20 inch barrel. Now as far as banning them, thats ridiculous. Its a little piece of metal that allows you to put a knife on your gun. How many mass bayonet stabbings have we had?

    And I like how you put it. "another restrictive--yet useless--law on the books that will do little besides impress ignorant citizens." That pretty much sums up the AWB crap perfectly.
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    I agree that the bayonet lug is all but useless but my point is that, when it comes to "assault weapons", it is all or nothing. We could argue that the typical civilian doesn't need a pistol grip stock, 30-round mag, and so on and just allow the AR-15 to be outright banned. After all, what does it do that a more friendly-looking Mini-14 couldn't do?

    Of course, if and when a ban comes most of our children and grandchildren will just look back and say "we didn't need those anyway", while other will pay whatever taxes it takes to own one. Case in point: automatic weapons. It is hard to believe that 80 years ago one could walk into a hardware store and buy a new Thompson smg. When the NFA went through (for what many of us consider good reasons given the use of such weapons by criminals) there were probably those who disagreed with it. Same with the 1968 GCA and the 1986 FOPA. On the subject of assault weapons, though, can you remember when it was possible to buy a brand new HK91 for under $1000? Me neither, but I have come across ads for them in early 1980s publications. Try even finding an HK-produced one now--Century amalgamations go for more.

    Anyway, the media and most Americans are ignorant when it comes to guns and their use. I recall a recent Facebook message that was making its rounds concerning the Fort Hood massacre. It stated that Hasan committed his act surrounded by armed Soldiers. In fact, besides the Military Police, most Soldiers handle their issued weapons only a few times a month, mostly for maintenance. It would be like somehow getting into a correctional facility and gunning down COs; beyond a certain point none of them carry firearms, but the illusion is that they are well-armed to handle their prisoners.

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    I recently sold an M16 bolt carreir group I paid $160 for on gunbroker for almost $400.
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    A gun shop in Al is trying to sell mags for 120

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic View Post
    A gun shop in Al is trying to sell mags for 120
    That hardly surprises me. My neighbor just sold 10 of my mags for $40 in a private sale--not too bad for older used GI mags.

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