When did I ever mention civilian in my post? Last I checked a few years ago, it was around 1500 for a decent one. Many of the weapons I mentioned also have integrated optics, thus raising their price.


Quote Originally Posted by crunker View Post
In my opinion, there's no need for a combat rifle to have f.a capacity if it's got burst. Soldiers like f.a, of course, but when you factor in controlability for covering fire and such, I think burst-fire setting has a clear advantage.
Burst setting is quite possibly one of the dumbest things ever devised. It was most likely created by some bureaucrat with a pen who thought it would save ammo and money. The point of auto is to lay down some serious scunion towards the enemy so they keep their head down. Suppression fire is vital for every soldier to have available so they can support a flanking assault if need be. Burst fire only hinders that.


Quote Originally Posted by crunker View Post
Even if you disagree with me, calling the AR-15 a shitty weapon surely seems extreme, doesn't it?
Nope. It had its time during the 60s, 70s and 80s and there are now better weapons available for the US military.

Quote Originally Posted by Syme View Post
Regarding the M16A3, no branch of the US armed forces uses them. They never saw widespread use even when they were first introduced in the 1980s, since they were intended only for specialized use by certain units. Only a small number were ever made. Nowadays they aren't really used at all. The SEALs, etc., probably still have a few lying around, but that's about it.
Seabees use A3s.