Thread: Decisions, decisions.

Originally Posted by Syme

Yeah, I got mine last year and it took about 8 weeks for the application to arrive after I requested it. Anony, sorry to say it but you will probably have several more weeks of waiting.

Oh well. Im not really in a hurry to get it. I already have everything i need to get my Garand. This will be for some stuff later.

Anyone know the legality of ordering guns and selling them? It wont be done often. Just for a few friends.

Originally Posted by fm2176

Has it changed any since this one:

http://www.cruffler.com/f531016.pdf

Or has the ATF instituted an original copy only policy?

Who know with those wackos.

Ill let you know once I get mine. And Ill see if anyone on another forum knows.

Originally Posted by Anonymous D

Oh well. Im not really in a hurry to get it. I already have everything i need to get my Garand. This will be for some stuff later.

Anyone know the legality of ordering guns and selling them? It wont be done often. Just for a few friends.

If you purchase a gun on your C&R, it is legal for you to later sell that gun to someone else. No NICS check or 4473 will be required; even though you are technically an FFL, selling guns bought on a C&R permit works exactly like a buddy-to-buddy sale. However, my understanding is that you can't have bought the gun for the express purpose of reselling it; a C&R permit isn't about that. You can sell a gun that you bought with your C&R permit, but you can't use your C&R permit as a way to deliberately buy guns for other people. You are required to keep records of all the firearms you have purchased using your FFL, including the sale information for any that you later sell. So if the BATFE ever inspects you and finds that you've been buying weapons and then selling them shortly thereafter, they will suspect that you've been using your FFL to buy guns for other people and you'll be in trouble. When your C&R permit arrives, it will come with a bunch of BATFE paperwork and booklets that will explain all of this to you in obnoxious detail. It should also come with a big paperback book that contains the summarized gun laws of all 50 states, which is damn useful to have around.

So you shouldn't use your C&R permit to buy guns for a friend, it exposes you to legal risk. But if you must do it, let a couple weeks pass between when you receive the weapon and when you sell it to your friend, so that your records don't show this gun arriving at your house one day and being sold off the next. That looks really suspicious. If you let a couple weeks pass, then if you ever get inspected, you can claim that you decided you weren't happy with the gun for some reason (didn't shoot right, condition was worse than you thought it'd be, etc.) and eventually a friend offered to take it off your hands. That's an acceptable cover story, because you ordered the gun for yourself and then only sold it when you no longer wanted it, rather than ordering it for the purpose of selling it. Obviously don't make a habit of this, either; that looks suspicious too. Only do it once, or at least very rarely in comparison to the overall number of purchases you make with your C&R.