Thread: Need a Knife

Originally Posted by Syme

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with every person who wants to insist that self-defense with a knife isn't dangerous (the internet is full of such people). I've already explained why it's a bad idea, if the only counterargument you can offer is "dude it's not rocket science" then you are obviously not examining the issue intelligently. Again, pretty much all reputable self-defense instructors will tell you the same thing: Trying to use a knife for self-defense, unless you are a proficient knife-fighter, is a bad idea in every way. You can accept that fact or ignore it. I find that the people who want to ignore it are usually immature or hot-headed individuals who like the idea of knife self-defense on an emotional level and aren't willing to let the facts intrude.

As for the studies I mentioned, no, they do not "include gang bangers as participants". You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. They are statistical studies based on UCR figures or other government data, so they don't have any "participants" at all.

Unless there are knife duels among the common citizens of America, then I don't see how they wouldn't include unsavory individuals like "gang bangers" to compile that amount of data.

TL;DR

When did I say it wasn't dangerous?

I just said it doesn't take a black belt to know that if you cut at someone's wrists, they are going to let you go either from pain, or on the off chance that you sever some tendons on the back of their hands.

It also doesn't take a reputable self defense expert to know that if you cut at someone's neck, it is not going to be conducive to being the victim of any further assaults from that person.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0930121512.htm


Studies such as this do indeed include criminals and the goings on in their lives as sources of data. They aren't participants, per se, but I've never heard of any kind of epidemiological study that had participants in the pure sense of the word.




So, since I've elaborated the why of my argument, let's see you elaborate on your side.

How exactly, does an assailant take a knife from an individual?
Isn't taking a knife from someone using it as a weapon generally considered to be a difficult thing best left to "reputable self defense instructors?"

This again falls under the fallacy that all muggers/assailants are magical jedi knights who will disarm you with the blink of an eye.

If they don't take the knife, how do they manage to stab you with it?



Now, please, elaborate on how an assailant injures an able bodied person who is using a knife as a weapon.




EDIT: I should state that I do not carry a knife for self defense.

That's what my 1911 is for.