woah woah woah. I just saw this thread and thus the insult to my bowl. The bowl in no way resembles a phallus and the fact that any paraphernalia was even included in that picture was just because my table was messy.
I know you said you aren't trying to compare crack to pot syme, but like faesce said I use crackhead mainly to describe certain people(who may or may not be addicted to crack). I was describing the grimy people who do shit like threaten you when you don't give them change or a cigarette.
I think knife play is hot.
i guess it does have penis traits
however that's honestly one of the most commonly used bowls around where i live (and he used to live) so i guess i take it for granted now
Now compare our murders with yours.
Most people that get killed in the US are big-time criminals anyway (not traffic offenders!), so it's not the epidemic that a cursory glance at statistics would suggest.
@Syme: thank you, I will, with pleasure.
Well I'd definitely like statistics for that.
It is true that the US murder rate is substantially higher than the UK's murder rate. It is also true that a disproportionately large number of US murder victims had prior criminal records or were engaged in crime, though I'm not sure that's enough to entirely justify crunker's claim. The same is probably true in Britain, or anywhere else for that matter. People who are involved with dangerous people or situations are, unsurprisingly, in greater danger of being hurt or killed.
To me, though, the overriding point is that the UK is a vastly more dangerous and violent and unsafe society than the US, despite their draconian efforts at gun control. I feel that it's dishonest to try and skirt that fact by choosing a single class of violent crime (even murder) to focus on while marginalizing the others, especially when murders make up such a tiny fraction of the overall violent crime rate. It's not like rape, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, etc. are trifling little crimes that don't matter as long the murder rate is down. I'm certainly not saying that British gun control causes the level of violence that exists in the UK, but the UK's case does clearly demonstrate that violent crime is largely decoupled from gun availability, and that the promise of "less guns, less crime" is a bogus one. Whether or not a society has lots of guns will have very little bearing on whether or not it has lots of violent crime. It works the other way, too: Some European countries, such as Switzerland and Finland, have very high rates of gun ownership, but still manage to have very little violent crime. So the idea that high gun ownership rates correlate with high violent crime rates is bogus as well.
Last edited by Syme; 06-22-2009 at 12:54 AM.
i think the murder rate is a bit more relevant than you're giving it credit for tbh. the point you're trying to make with guns =/='ing level of violence i agree with though.
is correct, although with all of those offenses the victim usually walks away with a scar or two. in my opinion they don't even compare to murder, which is why i think it's such an important particular statIt's not like rape, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, etc. are trifling little crimes that don't matter as long the murder rate is down.
I'm certainly not trying to downplay the seriousness of murder, but the fact remains that murders account for only a tiny fraction of all violent crime (about 1% in the US, even less in the UK), so the murder rate really has very little to do with how violent or dangerous a society is in the overall sense. It seems to me that Brits often try to focus in on their lower murder rate in order to dodge around the fact that their society is, overall, vastly more violent and dangerous than that of the US.
I carry a knife because its a great tool. I cant tell you the number of times Ive had to cut or poke a hole in something, and having a sharp, good quality knife (I carry a Gerber) really helps. However, I wouldnt use a knife in self defense unless it was a last resort, or I had an advantage in the situation.
self defense implies that you're defending yourself from an attacker. it doesn't denote any advantage or disadvantage in itself.
Doesnt seem very sporting.
It wasn't very sporting for your attacker to pull a knife on (what he thought was) an unarmed person in the first place, so he gets what he deserves. Poor sportsmanship is met with poor sportsmanship.
yeah first thing i'd think about if my life was in danger was whether or not my next actions were sporting
popular bowl
not a penis
only 5 year olds and nermy see penises in every day objects
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