Not surprising lol
They should make a fighter in the game that looks exactly like Dana White. That would be funny shit.
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Not surprising lol
They should make a fighter in the game that looks exactly like Dana White. That would be funny shit.
I'll go ahead and post a short version of my UFC 101 picks here. There really isn't enough traffic in this thread to justify giving full explanations of why I think each of these guys is going to win so short version will have to do.
BJ Penn vs. Kenny Florian - I've got BJ via whatever he wants, probably as early as late in the second round, maybe in the third if he takes his time.
Forrest vs. Andy - Forrest via UD or late round submission. I already got the feeling that Anderson wasn't taking this fight as seriously as he should, and after seeing how terrible he looked at the weigh ins it pretty much confirmed that thought for me.
Amir vs. Hendricks - I've got Amir in a third round gnp session all up on Amir's head. I don't know that Amir can handle Hendricks wrestling, but then I don't know that he can handle him standing either. This has fight of the night potential if they both bring their a-game.
Grove vs. Almeida - I've got Grove taking a UD. I think his guard is good enough to negate Almeida's ground game, and he's got a good reach advantage standing. I think Grove is going to push the pace and control the fight for the most part, and he should outpoint Almeida as long as he doesn't end up giving up a sub.
Neer vs. Pellegrino - I won't even try to pick this one. They're both very well rounded and seem hungry to take this fight. This is another one that has fotn potential. I think a lot of people are overlooking this fight but I believe that it's going to be dynamite if they both come in as determined as I think they will. Just for the sake of guessing I'll say Neer via KO early in the third.
I have to be honest I can't remember who is in the other main card fight, so it must not be very important. One undercard fight that I would like to push is the McCrory vs. Howard bout. I like watching both of those guys fight, they both seem like cool guys and bring a ton of heart to the octagon. I'm not sure who's going to win this one either but I'm pulling for McCrory because a) He seems like the kind of guy that you could play video games and smoke pot with, and b) He asked to walk out to Thunderhorse the last time he fought (UFC 96?).
That is all.
oh thanks for reminding me about ufc 101, I completely forgot that it's this weekend.
As for your picks, I actually have different speculation for the BJ and Forrest fight, but your short argument sounds good because I haven't been paying attention in MMA for a month or so.
I could see either BJ or Kenny winning, but I do see Silva on top. Forrest is a training beast though so I don't know.
BJ seems to be pretty dedicated to reminding people that he's the best at 155, and when BJ is in shape and determined it's going to be near impossible for anyone to beat him. Kenny is a great fighter and all, but I don't think that he's good enough to dethrone Penn right now. (Although anything can happen.)
Andy has seemed way too cocky lately and doesn't seem to be taking Forrest very seriously. He also looked like he was in terrible shape at the weigh ins so I don't know where his mind is for this fight. Also, Forrest has what is probably the most solid chin of anyone that Anderson has faced (Other than Hendo, who Andy couldn't seem to KO.). If Anderson does win it'll probably be by outpointing Forrest.
Hmm, did Anderson look just bigger like in the James Irvin fight or did he actually look chubbier?
And now I agree with you about BJ winning because Florian mostly submits his guys, and BJ happens to be the best ju jitsu artist at lightweight and has a great chin.
Anderson looked chubby to me. I mean he looked bigger for the Irvin fight like he didn't cut much weight if any to fight him, but he looked to be in great shape then too. Today he looked chubby and not at all in shape, and maybe a bit worried that he wouldn't make 205. (Although he may have just been dicking around and acting worried, the way he looked it wouldn't surprise me if he was being serious.)
That sucks, I always want both fighters to be in the best shape, none of that lopsided shit of Cris Cyborg or Thiago Alves vs Matt Hughes.
Penn is going to demolish Florian. I'm gonna say early 3rd round TKO, not because it will take him that long but Penn likes to punish people(see Joe Stevenson).
As for Silva v. Forrest, logically I'm thinking Anderson via 2nd round KO. Anderson is a pin point accurate striker and Forrest usually reverts to brawling. But there is always the "never bet against Forrest Griffin or Randy Couture" factor. I really hope Griffin can pull this one out, but I seriously doubt it.
I said Amir beats Hendricks via knees standing or while Hendricks is shooting.
Oh yeah and Matt Riddle is going to rape whoever he's fighting.
Well Silva just owned Griffin.
And as for BJ, rear naked choke in the 4th. Florian was doing okay but Penn was in great shape and had better striking.
Florian did a great job of nullifying BJ's striking for the most part. He kept his lead arm extended and continually pawed at BJ while circling left, taking away his jab, arguably his most effective punch. Then to make sure he didn't run into one of Penn's sledgehammer right hooks he kept throwing head kicks to keep that hand busy.
Florian's entire game plan, however, revolved around wearing BJ out by using those tactics to stall and pushing Penn up against the cage like St. Pierre did. The only problem is that BJ was in shape, and Florian has neither the strength nor the wrestling ability of GSP. It was only a matter of time before Florian was finished, despite his intelligent fighting he was completely outclassed.
As for Anderson Silva, well he blew my fucking mind. I'll leave it at that.
Florian did nothing against BJ but try to keep from getting killed. As for Andy I was wrong I make mistakes from time to time.
Nah I also thought Forrest would be able to keep up with Silva because he never really quits, I guess Silva really does hit as hard as they say.
After these fights though, Anderson Silva just got a seat right next to Fedor in my rankings. As for BJ Penn, I can't wait for Diego to fight him, I'm rooting for Sanchez but I just know BJ will win.
Silva has been way above Fedor in my p4p rankings, although those don't really mean anything to me. As far as that goes, GSP, BJ, Machida, Faber, Brown, Cote, and a whole list of others all rank above him. To be the best p4p you have to beat the best, and Fedor has failed to do that lately. Sure he was there at one point in time but you can't just live off of your past accomplishments and still hold that title imo.
Oh sorry, my rankings are more of who would I want standing next to me if I had to fight a group of guys (I had a discussion with some people).
Fedor would be good because he's big and has a good punch, judging from his last two fights. But after Silva's manhandling, he would be awesome too. But really I think the best person to have would be Brock Lesnar because you just want big guys in a street match.
Having Brock by your side would prevent pretty much any street fight you might be getting in to, whereas is someone saw Fedor next to you and didn't know who he was they would probably think they could take him.
That fight didn't prove Silva hits hard. It proves, like Machida's fights, that with precision and timing you don't need power to knock someone out. Even Evans was talking about how Machida "hit like a bitch" and he just kept knocking him down and eventually knocked him the fuck out. Knock out power is overrated.
Thats why I love watching them fight so much. They prove perfect technique will beat power all day long.
So I heard that Forrest's problem was a broken or dislocated jaw, but I haven't heard it confirmed anywhere. Does anyone happen to pay attention to how long it usually takes between the fights and the release of the medical suspension list?
Also, KenFlo seems to be a fitting nickname for Florian, he seemed to have pissed himself in the third round. :D
http://i32.tinypic.com/2a6s3za.gif
Well it took two weeks after for Minotauro to say he had staph, but it's really up to Forrest, he could announce it today if it's obvious.
As for Florian, ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS go to the bathroom right before any sporting match.
ahahahahahha
that is the single greatest thing I've ever seen
holy shit torres just got KTFO
Torres caught a beating last night. The thing about WEC events is that every time I watch one I find myself thinking "Wow I'd rather pay to see this than 75% of the events that the UFC puts on. I mean you don't have as many big names in WEC but the fights are always top notch.
Edit for raghead how did you feel about the jiu jitsu that Curran displayed last night? I was pretty impressed by some of his work on the ground. Also, I think that Lesnar destroyed all of Mir's brain cells because he sounded mentally retarded in his commentating.
Also, http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...14xm4hljpg.gif
lol ass beating.
Currans BJJ was excellent. I loved how he worked his guard and personally I felt he won that fight from the bottom.
I really wish he would have switched to the armbar at the end though, I feel he probably could have finished a lot easier that way considering the triangle was way to high up.
Also why the fuck does no one properly finish a mounted triangle? Turn back and grab the leg! I've never seen anyone do it in MMA, its so much more effective than just trying to squeeze with leg power.
Wow, I don't watch WEC because I don't have the network, but judging from that clip it seems bantamweights and even featherweights (Uhumm first Faber Brown fight) has more knockouts than UFC's lightweight division.
Cool Runnings I'd like to suggest that you look up the fights and watch them. A lot of them are on youtube even because zuffa doesn't seem to care about a free show being shared on the internet. Those guys rarely give a weak performance, and always seem to swing for the fences.
Yeah seriously WEC is 99 out of 100 times a lot better than the UFC shows.
Watch Urijah Faber v. Mike Brown II for a truely amazing fight. I don't care how you feel about either of the fighters, you can't not be a fan of them after that fight. Both showed so much heart and skill and barely slowed the pace at all for the full 25 minutes.
I admit that I'm a bit of a Faber nuthugger, but honestly he is a far better fighter than Brown. I mean the guy won two rounds with two broken hands the second time around, the first time he knocked himself out being flashy. Unfortunately I'm still not sure if he's going to be Brown's Franklin or Brown's Rampage if there's a rubber match.
I'll do one better than that, I'll post a link to a place where you can see most any fight video you would like to see, and post the matches from the event for you.
General fights
http://www.mmalinker.com/
Torres/Bowles
Benevidez/Cruz
Castillo/Lamas
Curran/The Miz
Massouh/Garcia
http://ikrazy.net/mixedmartialarts/i...ic,1840.0.html
Not all the best quality, but it's the best I could find without doing an extensive search.
For some reason I was IP-Banned from mmalinker. I made an account but never even posted on the site, I emailed about it and they were just like "Idk what happened" and never fixed it lol.
Anyway I agree the Faber is much more talented than Brown. That overhand right in the first round that rocked Brown shattered his hand and then a little later on he broke his thumb on the other hand. He probably would have gotten a 2nd round TKO if that hadn't happened, and even with two busted hands he locked multiple chokes which he couldn't finish(because of his hands). Still you have to give props to Brown. He's a tough motherfucker and I think is going to beat the shit out of Aldo, where I think Faber would have lost to him.
edit: lol oh hey looks like i was unbanned from mmalinker.
Nice djwolford. I'm a bit of a Faber ballsucker too because even though I never saw any of his fights, I just happened to meet him when I came to watch my cousin train. I didn't talk much because I knew his status, but he seemed cool.
He seems like a legitimately cool guy. If you get a chance, check out that site that I posted and watch his fights with Pulver and his second fight with Brown. Those are well worth watching. (His first fight with Pulver is an all out war and pretty fun to watch.)
Sad news guys, the barncat got cut from the UFC roster after his split decision loss the other night. I don't know why, because he seemed to be gaining popularity and despite being 3-3 he was still an above average fighter imo. Also, now they don't have anyone to appeal to the nerd population that keeps up with MMA. (I mean the guy requested a Dethklok song as walkout music it doesn't get any greater than that.)
Is this barncat Clay Guida per say?
No Tamdan McCrory, he's the guy who looks like a typical sci-fi nerd, stands about 6'5" or 6'6" and fights at 170 lbs. He just came off of a split decision loss at UFC 101, and I think his contract was up. If I had to guess he wanted some time off since he's about to move to the MW division, or maybe Dana thought it would be best if he took some time off and worked on his game a bit to prepare for fighting at 185. Either way, from what I've heard he left on good terms with the company and is expected to return. The guy is only 22 if I'm not mistaken so he's got plenty of time to sharpen his skills before he comes back.
I don't remember him fighting (except against Hazelett), but I remember him. Dude has a personality at least.
Speaking of Hazelett, can you say future of WW? Unfortunately he's out til early 2010 with his ACL, but man, this kid has got nothing but potential. His fight with Kos everyone though they were throwing him to the wolves, but he rocked Kos early and would have submitted him if he wasn't saved by the bell. Of course Kos ended up getting the win, but it just goes to show the kid has no ceiling. I'm looking forward to him being the one to end GSP's reign by submission.
Yeah, McLovin caught McCrory in a really neat looking armbar of sorts, the setup and execution of that impressed the hell out of me. Hazelett has a ton of potential imo.
(Come to think of it, didn't Gono catch McCrory in a strikingly similar arm bar? Maybe he should work on his arm defense a little bit...)
New topic, so who is going to watch the Carano Santos fight?
I just happen to get free hbo and showtime this month so I'll definitely be watching it.
The fights on the card have been modified so much but I'll do a wiki search for you guys.
Gina Carano vs Cristiane Santos
Renato Sobral vs Gegard Mousasi
Gilbert Melendez vs Mitsuhiro Ushida
Jay Hieron vs Jesse Taylor
I only care about the first two and a bit of the Hieron fight ( I hope Jesse Taylor gets an ass kicking). I want Gina to win because she is hot and can speak English but I have a feeling Cyborg will own. As for the Babalu fight, I think Babalu will win because I just think Mousasi is overrated and I think Jacare Souza should have won before the bs up kick.
Sorry but I didn't realize not many people have HDNet fights so most probably don't know about these guys.
Babalu/Musasi should be a good fight, but I'm not sure who is going to win. I'm leaning towards Babalu but then he hasn't been that impressive during his last couple of outings so I really don't know.
Carano/Cyborg, I have a feeling that Carano is going to pull it off somehow, but common sense tells me that Cyborg is a man and will win.
To be quite honest, I'm likely going to watch the UFC 100 replay, and just watch those two fights on the internets later on, because almost nothing on this card interest me at all.
I heard about the replay, my tv guide just shows the greatest 100 fights.
Is it just the Lesnar Mir fight or do they also show the ass beating Bisping got?
How did Babalu not impress you against Soko? He weathered the earlier storm against a clearly superior striker/judoku and submitted him in the second round. Babalu v. Mousasi has fight of the night written all over it. It clearly should be the main event, unfortunately most people have never heard of Mousasi. It's really a toss up because Mousasi hasn't been tested against someone with Babalu's experience yet. If Babalu wins, he should return to the LHW top ten and send a clear message that he is still relevant in the division. If Mousasi wins, he will clearly be a top ten LHW and will most likely hold onto that Strikeforce title until the UFC makes him a deal he can't refuse.
As for Hieron v. Taylor, I'm really liking Hieron in this one. If Taylor can't get the takedown expect another brutal knockout from Hieron.
Carano/Cyborg... i really don't give a shit. Womens MMA is as much of a joke as womens basketball.
It's Lesnar/Mir, Hendo/Bisping, and a couple of other main card fights and then a few unaired prelims if I'm not mistaken. There will be a couple in there that we haven't seen before at least.
It's not that he didn't do well, I just didn't feel like he put on a performance that left me thinking wow this guy is great. I agree that it should be the main event though and probably will be fotn, but considering what else is on the card that's not saying much imo. Also, I agree with you 100% on the womens mma part. It ranks up there with womens pro wrestling imo, only with slightly less revealing outfits. So really it doesn't even rank with that.
Oh yeah, by the way, the rumors that McCrory and Leites are coming back to the octagon may be true. (At least the McCrory part, I'm not sure about Thales.
So it's looking like he's probably back in, but not even Tamdan knows for sure right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barncat
Good move by dana IMO. Thales is still a tough, top level fighter, he's just going through a rough spot in his career.
http://www.sherdog.com/thumbnail_cro...width_size=600
both made weight
and god damn does gina look good. haha cyborg looks like she's going to fucking murder her.
also holy shit werdum came in at 228, he's looking lean. if this mean he's finally training hard he's going to be a force.
Werdum is probably knockin' on 205's door if he's at 228 now. I don't know that he will do that, just saying he probably could.
That's what I'm thinking. 205 doesn't really have any dominant submission fighters right now, he could really mix shit up.
Djwolford I finally got around to watching a WEC fight. I didn't manange to watch to watch the Faber Pulver fight but I got to see the first KO of Faber Brown. And I would like to agree with Bas Rutten, it looked like he was trying to impress the ladies.
Oh by the way, what time is the replay for the UFC 100 because it just shows the ultimate 100 fights and I would like to record it.
And lastly, Gina Carano looked even hotter in the weigh in, please please win.
Cool Runnings you won't understand why he did that if you don't watch any of his other fights. Faber pulls shit like that out of his ass all the time, and it works for him most of the time.
Here's a fun one for you, someone grabbed his leg for a single leg and Faber brought the other leg up, kneed to guy in the face and stayed standing. Sound familiar? That's cause Mir tried it against Lesnar and got fucekd up.
In all fairness Faber is better than Mir at pretty much everything. (BJJ probably being the exception, and Faber's defense is pretty wicked so even that's not as far apart as some people might think.)
Cool Runnings I believe it starts at 9 central, but I could be wrong.
Thank you djwolford. And I'm probably wrong with him trying to impress a hot girl in the front row, I just thought it was funny.
Mousasi is a fucking MONSTER
Carano/Cyborg was quite possibly the worst display of mma in a main event that I've ever seen. Other than Babalu/Mousasi the Strikeforce card just wasn't very strong, and even that was a pretty very short fight. Maybe it just looked bad because the last event that I watched was a WEC card, but I just couldn't get interested.
You're right though raghead Mousasi was pretty monsterish in that fight.
SAKURABA IS COMING BACK!!!
holy shit i just came like 3 feet in the air
god i hope not
when will fighters stop ruining their legacies by fighting past their prime?
anyway i guess fight predictions for 104:
machida over shogun in a closer fight than expected
velasquez over rothwell in a wrestling match
neer over tibau via decision
stevenson over fisher in an epic fight
johnson over yoshida in another 'finish him' ko
also okami over sonnen(why the fuck is this on the undercard)
oh yeah and my fight is a week before this i'm gonna say me via sexiness
I didn't know you did MMA, well good luck to you.
As for the upcoming UFC match, I have a gut feeling machida will win in a decision but I'm pulling for a KO by Shogun. As for the Velasquez fight, don't really care.
Also, is it just me or are the UFC fights getting less and less stacked every time? Like cmon, the Belfort vs Franklin fight was good, but that should be a second main card event to something even better.
UFC 103 was pretty loaded dude.
And my fight is going to be muay thai. Because according to PA law, you can fight in muay thai and compete in sub wrestling but you can't put them together until you're 18. stupid shit.
are you kidding? your MUCH more likely to get hurt doing just muay thai then mma... there are like, a disproportionate amount of injuries related to boxing compared to UFC or BJJ competitions...
btw, whats your fighting weight/height? I do muay thai too, actually.
yeah pennsylvania is retarded. no strikes to the face on the ground either in ammy mma. can't wait to get out of this state.
this fight i'm going to be at 142, but i'm definitely going to have to move up i don't think i'll be able to make this cut again. have you fought at all yet?
150 myself, but i'm usually up against kids who are about 4-5 inches taller then me, since i'm 150. I'm not exactly stocky. I'm currently 3-0, but thats not because i'm particularly good. they just put me up against kids who have borderline downsyndrome when it comes to defending themselves.
Yeah I'm hoping I get thrown some cannon fodder for my first fight, looking for the knock out as I invited like 20 people to come watch(horrible idea for my first one lol).
Did you record any of your fights? I love watching amateur fights, people tend to go at it harder because they have nothing to lose.
That sucks.
Yeah I'll probs have a video up. Since I don't turn 18 til July I'm not even gonna worry about fighting ammy in PA. Hopefully I'll get into BU and I'll start training up at Delagrotte's and fight out of there. :)
Can't wait to get the fuck out of PA and get to a city with some legit gyms around. Not saying my gym isn't legit, but we don't have any high level pro fighters in the area. Except Matt Riddle when he's back in the area, but that's not often.
I gotcha. I actually met Jens Pulver down at the NJ shore last summer. He was with some asian chick.
All my friends where watching us but none of them had the balls to just go up to him like i did.
I was fooling around with him and I asked him if he'd spar with me and he put his hands up lmao, but then he pat me on the shoulder and was like "nah dude i'm not gonna embarres you in front of all your friends."
in total i spent about 5 minutes with him and he was REALLY chill, actually.
Yeah I heard Jens was a real great guy.
I met Jon Jones and called him out at a grappling tournament lol. He wouldn't spar me though, he's like "nah man I don't wanna get beat up by a kid it'll hurt my street cred". He was really cool haha.
A bit early, but I just can't wait for the Penn vs Sanchez fight. Both these guys are great on their feet and Diego always puts on a great show.
I'd be rooting for Sanchez, but I'm cool with whatever happens. I do see Penn winning on the floor somehow since he is I believe the person with the best ground game.
I'm gonna say Penn takes that one via first round KO.
Sanchez isn't a good striker. His striking works because striking in MMA sucks. He throws fast, he throws hard and he keeps throwing which overwhelms a lot of people early. Still he shows rudimentary striking technique, throwing set combinations and almost never cuts angles. Hell, even Clay Guida managed to start to figure out his striking in the third round of their fight and started countering him.
BJ Penn on the other hand, is a world class striker. He's not just some heavy handed MMA guy. From the mouth of Freddie Roach himself, Penn has the best pure boxing skills in MMA. If there is one thing Roach knows, it's boxing. And coming from someone who has trained with both Anderson Silva and Andrei Arlovski, that is a hell of a statement.
So yeah, this is an exciting match up, but if you really look at it Sanchez has no way in hell of winning. Going to be a dominating performance from the Prodigy. If Sanchez is smart he won't try his usual strategy of swarming with strikes. His best bet IMO is to try to EXPLOSIVELY get the takedown. None of that wearing him down against the cage shit, that won't work unless you're GSP. Penn's known for an airtight, methodical BJJ game while Sanchez excels in scrambles. I'd say Sanchez's only real chance is to try and create scrambles up against the cage and try and secure some dominant positioning.
And robbery of the century goes to.... Lyoto Machida!
I didn't get to see the fight but I heard. Sounds interesting, Machida keeps the belt but the UFC gets to see some real Shogun (as if people thought Liddell's KO wasn't enough).
I just think it's so ridiculous... I mean first of all Shogun won that fight. You can't even argue by any shot that he lost, the Fight Metric alone should be enough(shogun out struck machida nearly 2 to 1). It was a close fight, but Shogun consistently landed more and hit a lot harder. He was visibly damaging Machida, who mentally broke down around the 3rd round. Even when they were announcing the winner Machida had his head hung as if he lost, and when they said his name he was genuinely shocked.
Here you have a guy who no one gave a chance to win and has been injured for years come back and beat the seemingly invincible champion, only to be robbed of the decision by the judges. I can't even imagine how pissed off Shogun is right now.
Probably the worst part about all of this is Machida will probably win the rematch. Machida was cocky before this fight, Shogun woke him up and showed him every hole in his defense that he needs to work on. Machida will make adjustments to his game and probably win next time and Shogun will never get the belt which he should be wearing right now. This shit pisses me off.
Also... we just missed out on Anderson Silva v. Shogun
That Anderson Silva fellow sure can dance.
Garcia vs. Jung was my favorite fight of all-time!
Garcia vs. Jung wasn't that good.
So rashad is going to beat rampage. And UFC hates Roy Nelson so they set him to fight Junior Dos Santos, though they should have let Cain kick his ass. Comments?
I don't care who wins the Rampage/Evans fight, I really hope that they end each others careers and we never have to see either of them again.
How could you say that they are 2 of the top contenders in LHW. And I hope Rashad beats rampage. I like rampage but I see it as Rashad being the underdog against the big bully. I lost respect for rampage on TUF10
Im so happy BJ Penn is getting the rematch he deserves against frankie edgar. He was completely ROBBED of his title. Judge's decisions are really starting to piss me off lately. Frank won 1 MAYBE 2 rounds. And that one judge scored it 50-45 in favor of frank, what the fuck someone pay him off or what?
I lost respect for both of them during TUF 10. I also refuse to watch that staged garbage from here on out.
On a side note, Penn got slaughtered in that fight, stop whining about it.
Since the last post here
BJ lost to Frankie again and then lost to Nick Diaz and retired.
Nick Diaz, Condit, GSP debacle.
Fedor lost 3 straight.
Jon Jones decided to walk through the LHW division.
Dominic Cruz beat Urijah Faber.
Frankie Edgar beat BJ and had 2 matches with Gray Maynard (a draw and an immediate rematch; KO win)
Anderson Silva is still tearing it up (but I think he is avoiding Chael, yeah I'm buying into his trash talk)
Cain raped Brock for the title.
JDS beat Cain for the title.
Let's bring some life back to this thread!