Thread: MMA v1.1

So how about that UFC 94 starting here shortly? War BJ!

I feel the same way about Penn. I put him in the same category as a Matt Hughes* in that he's a total dick, but he's so good that it's excusable. Also yeah Machida should win via ninja destruction. This card looks to be all around solid though. There are even three undercard matches that I wouldn't mind seeing in Jake O'Brien/Wellisch, Fitch/Gono and Manny Gamburyan/Thiago Tavares.

*In his prime

Spoiler

Machida is certifiably some kind of crazy ninja, or a ghost of some sort.

Yeah...what a lazy fuck. That fight should have been a competition.

Less chili dogs+more training-vacation time during training is clearly the answer to that problem.

That spinning back elbow was nice. The guy has a very bright future in the UFC. Of course he's obviously no match for you, smart guy turning that fight down.

Other than BJ/GSP and DHK/Karo most of the fights were pretty good though. I'm still glad that I didn't pay for it, but I think Jones/Bonnar and Machida/Silva alone would have made it worth the purchase.

On a side note, how did one of the judges give Gono one of those rounds against Fitch? He did nothing that even resembled winning a round imo...

Yeah that one confused me as well. The judges must have been high or something last night. Had BJ not been 1. Lazy during training 2. Outweighed by 15 lbs. 3. Lazy in general and had he actually showed up to the fight it would have been better. It wasn't so much a bad or boring fight as it was a disappointment to me.

B.J. Penn's camp has filed a formal complaint with the Nevada State Athletic Commission over Vaseline that was allegedly rubbed on Georges St. Pierre's back between rounds one and two. UFC president Dana White said at the post-fight press conference that he was aware of the complaint, and said he personally witnessed members of the commission take the Vaseline away from GSP's camp and rebuke them in the Octagon between rounds.

"I saw the commission jump up there and flipping out," said Dana White. They said one of the guys was rubbing Vaseline on Georges' back in between rounds. It was one and two, I think."

"The guys from the athletic commission went up there and started screaming at them. Knocked the Vaseline and kicked the Vaseline out of the Octagon."

White added that "some Vaseline on a guy's back didn't change the outcome of that fight, but you don't do it," and said the blame should fall on the cornerman responsible and not GSP.

"If a guy was intentionally putting Vaseline on a guy's back, he should never corner a mixed martial arts fight again."

As for what becomes of the complaint now, White said it's out of his hands.

"Who knows. That's up to the commission."

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http://www.cagepotato.com/bj-penns-c...between-rounds

Not saying that Penn would have won had it not been for that, but it's quite possible that the NSAC will rule it a no-contest because of it. That could have had a huge effect on Penn's ability to control GSP's head in the guard, and I did notice that BJ was having an unusually hard time doing that. I think that's a big reason for BJ becoming discouraged in that fight as well.

Of course his laziness and the fact that he started gassing out in the second round were the biggest factors in the fight.


Edited for evidence to back up this claim:



(In the third one the NSAC guy looked pretty irritated.)

Well I honestly don't think that I've ever seen Penn have that kind of trouble controlling someone in his guard. Either way, you're right. He doesn't really have any legitimate excuses for getting beat like a drum. I'm still sticking to the BJ is lazy story, because despite the way they tried to make it look like he trained hard for this one, I somehow doubt that he did anything differently as far as his training is concerned.

UFC 98 is starting to look very watchable.
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Matt Hughes vs. Matt Serra
Frankie Edgar vs. Sean Sherk
Josh Koscheck vs. TBA
Tom Hague vs. Pat Barry
James Irvin vs. Drew McFrederies - Don't Blink
Houston Alexander vs. Andre Gusmao
Phillipe Nover vs. Kyle Bradley
Yosiyuki Yoshida vs. Brandon Wolff
George Roop vs. Dave Kaplan
Vladamir Kozlov vs. HHH

Originally Posted by cdc

I swear these threads just consist of you two with my occasional input that no one responds to. well Mr. E does come in to talk about working out and stuff. though this is a little old who enjoyed watching BJ get molested? And then have BJ nuthuggers complain about "greasing" because they had nothing else to blame? I did!

Well the way I saw it, BJ was going to lose anyway, but GSP did get greased up. At least if he hadn't Penn might have been able to pull off a quick submission or at least kept GSP in his guard a little bit better. It's a dick move on the part of GSP's corner either way.

Well like I said, I don't think it would have made a difference. Vaselining his back and shoulders is just a dickhead move if you're in the corner of an equally dominant fighter with a 10 lb. weight advantage(just guessing at the weight.).

Oh neat. I wasn't sure exactly what the weight difference is but I knew that GSP cut to make weight and BJ came in under with a lot of extra pudge.

Sadly enough, I didn't start watching until Ken Shamrock appeared in the WWF. Before that I was unaware that MMA existed. I watched casually until Sylvia/Arlovski and Tito/Shamrock fought, which I think was somewhere around the end of 2006. Since then I've kept up with it pretty regularly. I'm mainly a UFC watcher, but made it a point to watch Pride(Until they went under), WEC, Dream, Affliction, Bodog(Until they shut down, I swear it's the Fedor curse.), Strikeforce, IFL(Also shut down?), Cage Rage(I think that they're shut down as well, haven't seen an event from them in a while.) and EXC().

So basically I'm a pro wrestling convert trapped in a man's body.

^^^^^^
Come to Alabama. Some of the smaller orgs here will let just about anyone fight.

You could always just ignore the fact that you've ever done it. There wouldn't be any real evidence that you've ever competed as far as I know.

brb watching dirty Sanchez smash Joe Daddy.

Lol at Koscheck. What a moron, he obviously wasn't taking him seriously. The whole fight I kept saying "what the fuck is he doing, why is he throwing that overhand right so sloppy he's gonna get knocked out". And look what happened. Fucking idiot, the UFC starts building him up for a title shot and he just throws it away.
edit: also, beautiful triangle from maia. that is actually my goto submission from mount and one of my favorite submissions so i thought that was awesome.
as for sanchez v. stevenson: wow. amazing fight, one of the best i've seen in a long time. the scrambles were absolutely beautiful, great stand up from both. i thought sanchez overused the bodyshot to uppercut combo way too much though, and got hit pretty hard a couple times because of it. also you could tell the weight cut affected him in the third round. the way he had his arm down(for those of you that dont know its a classic boxing trick when you're too tired to keep your arm up, keeps you defended and lets you snap a good jab from waist) at first i thought was just to throw stevenson off, but then after he went for the takedown after that i knew it was because he was getting tired. he'll definitely be a force at 155 though, i hope he fights sherk next.

Sanchez/Sherk and Stevenson/Huerta would be the two matches that I'd like to see come of this. In all honesty the lightweight division has enough talent that I can think of a half dozen people off of the top of my head that would make a great next opponent for Sanchez.

As for Koscheck, he obviously didn't take his opponent seriously, but I'm going to agree with him on the early stoppage. He had clearly recovered by the time he hit the ground, and even put his hands up to defend before the ref stopped it.

Maia, that guy never fails to impress me. His Jiu Jitsu is just out of this world. Sonnen is no slouch on the ground, but Maia made him look like terrible.

The Marquardt/Gouvernietalabomba(Yeah I'm not even going to try to spell that.) fight was pretty decent as well, as was all of the one minute of the Dos Santos/Struve fight.

All in all it was a good event. It seems to me that the last couple of free events have actually been better than the PPVs.

Well Koscheck is a dick so I really don't like to take up for him much. If that's the rule in England I guess I support the call, but I still would have liked to see how the fight played out because I don't think that it was anywhere near over at that point.

From mmaweekly.com:

"Just as quickly as it was announced, a UFC heavyweight title unification bout between current champion Brock Lesnar and interim titleholder Frank Mir has apparently been scrapped.

Fiveouncesofpain.com reported that Mir suffered a back injury that has kept him from training recently and caused his removal from the UFC 98 main event bout.

Multiple MMAWeekly.com sources, however, indicated that it is a knee injury that has precluded Mir from training. They also said that he recently underwent surgery to repair the knee, which will sideline him for the next four to six weeks to allow the knee to sufficiently heal.

The UFC had no comment at the time of publication. It is currently unknown if the promotion will try to find a replacement for Mir in the bout with Lesnar, or if they will move to insert a new UFC 98 headline bout."


Frank Murr is skurred.

They just announced it on ufc 96, the fights postponed. On a side note, Hamill just knocked Munoz tfo. Then I couldn't understand his victory speech.

Also, Rampage Jackson is an idiot, I can only hope that he dies in a house fire in the next few days.