It was no less than 8 yards down the field on the holding call.

I do suppose we are talking about different plays on the roughing/I.G.

I did play football, and yeah I know what you are saying, but I mean it would be different if he intercepted a ball after that or something.

I agree with Madden on the safety, and so did the refs.

Officiating has gotten worse, but it is a part of the game. If the Cardinals really wanted to win they wouldn't have committed so many retarded legitimate penalties.