Quote Originally Posted by sailor jack View Post
aint no football player that could last 5 minutes without a helmet and pads, nevermind 80
That's just stupid.

Quote Originally Posted by sailor jack View Post
exactly, the guy doing the hitting wouldnt have the confidence to tackle without pads. ive played football and rugby and i personally find rugby the most painful and frightening of the two

and thats why i fucking love it
You really think that this guy(Brian Dawkins) wouldn't hit someone without pads on?


The correct answer is that he would kill them.

Quote Originally Posted by SneeBeezums View Post
Except for rucking, scrumming, and tackling...

Physical contact is huge in rugby. Yeah theoretically you can play without tackling and the same could be said about football then.

And about the arguement with pads. I don't know how many times our rugby team has tried recruiting some meaty looking guys that played football and they said they wouldn't play because you tackle/get tackled without pads. Pussies. Our best tackler on our team is a guy that's like 5' 5" and a probably like 130lb max.
I love how you are comparing professional football players to pussies you know who just played football a couple times.

Quote Originally Posted by SneeBeezums View Post
^ How many of those guys are going to run full force and tackle a person without pads though?

I was thinking about this more last night. The reason you don't see (very often) bone crushing hits in rugby is because it is impracticable. You can easily hurt yourself and the other player. Not to mention that the point of the game is to turn the ball over. This isn't football where you tackle the guy and the play is over. You put everything you got into a tackle but fail to wrap him up and just knock him over he can easily pitch it off to one of his teammates or get up and run.

As for the argument about lineman. Yeah their athletic. But how often do you see them make a huge run and not be winded. They wouldn't be able to play a full match of rugby. They need to have insane about of endurance to be able to do all of that running and hitting. And for their size, I just can't see that happening. And bigger doesn't necessarily mean better on a rugby pitch either.
Why the fuck are you only comparing linemen, a very specialized position, to all kinds of rugby players. They are not meant to have enough endurance to sprint all game, that's why they are so fucking big. You guys just compare linemen because they are huge and have a bunch of fat on them so naturally they don't look nearly as athletic or anything. Those linemen will fuck shit up, they are extremely powerful and surprisingly fast. Why aren't you guys looking at db's, hb's, and other positions? They are a lot smaller, can run all day and still dish out huge hits on people as well as catch the ball and break the shit out of people.


Quote Originally Posted by sailor jack View Post
rugby players dont want to sacrifice their futures, they just have the common sense to tackle properly, so therefore dont need a helmet.

any big lump of a doofus can run at a guy and hit him hard, provided theyre protected with pads and stuff
no rugby player would go in with his head. and no rugby player longs for scarring. if it comes then fine, i dont mind cuts and bruises

and the fact that the football players have worse injuries (despite having protection) just prooves they are idiots who cant tackle
If football players didn't have pads then either the game would be different or people would die or get seriously injured frequently.

Quote Originally Posted by sailor jack View Post
also, many rugby players are identified by scouts whilst playing for a university team, much like American footballers, proving they at least have the capability to enter further education
the difference is, rugby players dont get sports scolarships to go to college, where they just play for the team and go to classes just to say they are in the university.

Rugby players are intellegent, respectable proffessionals, who play a full contact sport to blow off steam
Football players are overfed lumps of angry thugs that like to run into other overfed lumps of angry thugs

Thats idiocy.
That's idiocy.