Silva isn't p4p #1 either.
My vote goes to Faber, then GSP, then Fedor, then Penn, then maybe Silva.
Silva isn't p4p #1 either.
My vote goes to Faber, then GSP, then Fedor, then Penn, then maybe Silva.
Originally Posted by TokiOriginally Posted by TokiOriginally Posted by Pickles
Lol, Faber for number 1? Seriously?
I mean yeah, he's one of my favorite fighters but the feather weight division isn't exactly what you would call stacked.
Who has Faber beat that's worthy of mentioning? Jens Pulver and Jeff Curran are really the best he's beat, and while both are great fighters, neither are worth of mention in any pound for pound ranking.
GSP? I agree he should be above Silva, but not Fedor. Some worth opponents he's beaten are Karo Parisyan, Frank Trigg, Sean Sherk, B.J. Penn, Matt Hughes and Josh Koscheck. Among those, Penn and Hughes stand out as amazing competition, Penn is still in the P4P debate and Hughes definitely was before he was destroyed by GSP. St. Pierre has definitely proven himself, but not as much as Fedor.
Let's take a look at Fedor's record. First of all, he has zero legit losses. The one loss cause by a stoppage from a cut from an illegal elbow was quickly and convincingly avenged. His worth opponents: Renato Sobral, Heath Herring, Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Mirko Filipović, Mark Hunt, Matt Lindland, and Tim Sylvia. 5 of those men are previous UFC champions. Big Nog still is a P4P great, and CroCrop was before he was destroyed by Fedor.
I think the main thing that separates Fedor and GSP, is the fact that GSP was stopped twice. Even though he avenged both losses, Fedor has never legitimately been defeated, which gives him the slight edge in ranking. Otherwise it's an extremely close arguement.
raghead you should know his opinion is a little biased since he is a Faber nuthugger. I mean there is nothing wrong with that and everyone's personal rankings will be slightly biased to say the least. Well for me, I can't see anyone but Fedor as P4P the best fighter no wait the best person ever. I'd give BJ a distant second (this is due to my friend's brainwashing of me).
It bothers me when people put BJ over GSP. Penn is my favorite fighter, and I'm willing to bet he's going to beat GSP when they fight, but he simply hasn't proved himself as much as GSP. If he didn't fuck up so much in the past by not training/breaking his own rib/fighting at heavyweight, he'd probably have a perfect record right now. While I think he's going to beat GSP, he simply doesn't belong in that division and I think Alves is going to take the belt from him right after he gets it. If only Penn could have learned from Anderson Silva: Smash everyone in you division and occasionally move up a weight class and smash people bigger than you.
But yeah, I believe BJ Penn is the most talented and naturally gifted fighter in the world, his ego just ruins it for him.
I think that BJ would have lost to Jens no matter what. Just because it was so early in his career and Jens had so much more experience. (But that's just me) I tend to disregard GSP due to his semi-recent loss to Matt Serra. Though watching his Jon Fitch fight made up for it a tiny bit. I also tend to disregard Anderson Silva after watching his fight vs. Daiju Takase. I know that P4P has nothing to do with record, but in my mind I have trouble separating the two.
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