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    I really don't see why people get all worked up when someone is good at Guitar Hero. GH is about as little like playing a real guitar as you can unless you get something made by Fisher Price. Sure it's always cool to watch when someone is good at any game, but being good at GH doesn't mean any musical talent.

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    Well when I saw this I didn't watch it because I thought it would be an amazing display of musical talent, I thought it would be a 13 year old kid hitting over 3000 notes at mothafuckin light speed without missing one. I think it's dumb he spent all this time perfecting the song but it is still pretty fucking sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I really don't see why people get all worked up when someone is good at Guitar Hero. GH is about as little like playing a real guitar as you can unless you get something made by Fisher Price. Sure it's always cool to watch when someone is good at any game, but being good at GH doesn't mean any musical talent.
    actually, i'm pretty sure that because of the nature of the game, you need considerable rhythmic talent and tonal descrimination to be very good at it. i mean it's not like playing an actual guitar but that doesn't mean it's completely separate from musical talent.

    edit: in fact after watching the video i'm convinced -- you can't do that without musical talent. lots of it. i heard and saw his fingers speed up and slow down as he corrected himself and you just can't do that with flashing lights on the screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    actually, i'm pretty sure that because of the nature of the game, you need considerable rhythmic talent and tonal descrimination to be very good at it. i mean it's not like playing an actual guitar but that doesn't mean it's completely separate from musical talent.

    edit: in fact after watching the video i'm convinced -- you can't do that without musical talent. lots of it. i heard and saw his fingers speed up and slow down as he corrected himself and you just can't do that with flashing lights on the screen.
    Well then with that logic DDR takes musical talent too. And so does dancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by effingawwesome View Post
    Well then with that logic DDR takes musical talent too. And so does dancing.
    ddr takes no, strictly speaking, musical talent but a lot of rhythmic aptitude, quick reflexes and eye-body coordination.

    and most dancing takes no musical talent, but to be a very good dancer you need a LOT of it. and by "very good" i don't mean "very good at dancing in clubs to techno music" i mean "very good in professional dance performance settings".

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    ddr takes no, strictly speaking, musical talent but a lot of rhythmic aptitude, quick reflexes and eye-body coordination.

    and most dancing takes no musical talent, but to be a very good dancer you need a LOT of it. and by "very good" i don't mean "very good at dancing in clubs to techno music" i mean "very good in professional dance performance settings".
    That's all Guitar Hero takes. Rhythmic aptitude, quick reflexes and hand-eye coordination. No musical talent goes into it. It's essentially DDR for the fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by effingawwesome View Post
    That's all Guitar Hero takes. Rhythmic aptitude, quick reflexes and hand-eye coordination. No musical talent goes into it. It's essentially DDR for the fingers.
    No it's not. You need to know where you'll be moving your fingers based on tone. You need to be able to sense where the music is going in order to be actually, genuinely good at it. You can be decent at GH without any musical talent, but to be really, really good, you simply need musical talent. (By saying musical talent, I take into account rhythmic and tonal aptitude.) In DDR, the moves and arrows are essentially arbitrary -- not so in GH.

    Playing an instrument is never like dancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    No it's not. You need to know where you'll be moving your fingers based on tone. You need to be able to sense where the music is going in order to be actually, genuinely good at it. You can be decent at GH without any musical talent, but to be really, really good, you simply need musical talent. (By saying musical talent, I take into account rhythmic and tonal aptitude.) In DDR, the moves and arrows are essentially arbitrary -- not so in GH.

    Playing an instrument is never like dancing.
    Yes it is. You move your fingers based on the tempo of the song, not on tone. There are 5 buttons to make up the whole fretboard of a guitar with 6 strings there is no way that 5 buttons can represent tone or actual notes on the guitar. You don't need a good ear, period. All you need is to play the songs a lot and to be able to know the tempo.

    You calling GH musical talent is like me saying someone who knows how to use a computer is a computer engineer. You have to know how to use a computer to be an engineer so anyone who can use a computer is an engineer. That's basically how your whole argument looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    another one of cryptic's heavy flow moments
    it still takes a good deal of talent and practice to do what this kid did. also, as goo-hair pointed out, you're incorrect in that some of the skills used in Guitar Hero can definitely be applied to actual musical performance, especially at the higher difficulty settings.

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