Thread: If athiests ruled the world

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I agree that there's no need to be discourteous to people who don't deserve it (which is the majority of religious people). But sometimes it's not discourtesy, and sometimes they deserve it.

Originally Posted by gwahir

I agree that there's no need to be discourteous to people who don't deserve it (which is the majority of religious people). But sometimes it's not discourtesy, and sometimes they deserve it.

I agree with this entirely.

While religion may somewhat hurt the world, it also does good in the world (I'm not implying that atheists don't do good too). If the world was run by atheists I think things would probably be generally the same as they are now. Most cases of religion hurting people are mislabeled. If there was no religion people would have to be more honest about why they did the bad things they did, but they would still do them. If there was no religion it wouldn't eliminate the issues of abortion, gay marriage, race, sex education, or anything else, it would just change some of the reasons why some people were divided on the issues.

Originally Posted by Mr. E

I agree with this entirely.

While religion may somewhat hurt the world, it also does good in the world (I'm not implying that atheists don't do good too). If the world was run by atheists I think things would probably be generally the same as they are now. Most cases of religion hurting people are mislabeled. If there was no religion people would have to be more honest about why they did the bad things they did, but they would still do them. If there was no religion it wouldn't eliminate the issues of abortion, gay marriage, race, sex education, or anything else, it would just change some of the reasons why some people were divided on the issues.

What?

What?

Without religion, there would be no reason to fight abortion laws and no reason to hate gays. There'd be none of these ridiculous taboos about sex, so sex education would be at an infinitely higher standard. Your assertion is nonsense.

Originally Posted by gwahir

What?

What?

Without religion, there would be no reason to fight abortion laws and no reason to hate gays. There'd be none of these ridiculous taboos about sex, so sex education would be at an infinitely higher standard. Your assertion is nonsense.

I disagree. People hate people who are different than them, religion or no religion. Gay rights would still be an issue, just like race rights. I think it is a little presumptuous to assume that there wouldn't be taboos either. We don't know how society would have developed without religion, and there is no way to know. All of these are moot points anyway because it is too late for there to have been no religion, lol. Even if everyone on earth magically decided there wasn't a god one day it wouldn't solve every problem ever. Back when I was a hardcore conservative (the days did exist, as much as I am ashamed of them) my arguments against abortion and gay marriage had nothing to do with religion.

Originally Posted by Mr. E

my arguments against abortion and gay marriage had nothing to do with religion.

Yes they did; you just didn't know it.

The are only ISSUES because of religion. YOU only argued against them because they were issues in the first place. Are you saying that if they weren't already very big conservative no-nos, you would have picked reasons out of the air why they were wrong? That's ludicrous.

There is no secular reason to hate gays and only incredibly silly and tenuous secular arguments against abortion.