Thread: Somali justice in action!

America is so good at criticising and destroying a culture that is thousands of years older than she is.
Westerners like ourselves cannot judge a culture like this which has completely different values.
Sure we think it's wrong.

Originally Posted by Dr. Baltar

America is so good at criticising and destroying a culture that is thousands of years older than she is.
Westerners like ourselves cannot judge a culture like this which has completely different values.
Sure we think it's wrong.

Being older doesn't make it righter. Just because something is part of someone elses culture doesn't make it right, just because in another part of the world x is ok, doesn't make it right. The way rape victims are treated in some Islamic states is disgusting. I don't care what they believe about sexuality, they are fucking wrong.

I remember seeing a documentary about a 16 year old Iranian girl, who was publically hanged for crimes against chastity, after she got raped. This is a shocking way to treat people, it is wrong, and I am within my rights to comdemn those who think it is ok. Such ways of life are backwards.

Originally Posted by Dr. Baltar

America is so good at criticising and destroying a culture that is thousands of years older than she is.
Westerners like ourselves cannot judge a culture like this which has completely different values.
Sure we think it's wrong.

stoning women for showing too much skin and for being gang raped is RIGHT?
Please be aware of how ignorant that post made you look.

Originally Posted by Sion

stoning women for showing too much skin and for being gang raped is RIGHT?
Please be aware of how ignorant that post made you look.

Aren't you a self-proclaimed homophobe?

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

Aren't you a self-proclaimed homophobe?

so? homosexuality is a sin WORTH killing people over, but bearing too much skin or GETTING gang raped?
Thats just fucked up.
/irony

Originally Posted by Sion

so? homosexuality is a sin WORTH killing people over, but bearing too much skin or GETTING gang raped?
Thats just fucked up.
/irony

Ha, ha, ha, ha!
I don't think ANY sins short of murder and child molestation are worth killing over.

Originally Posted by Sion

stoning women for showing too much skin and for being gang raped is RIGHT?
Please be aware of how ignorant that post made you look.

Please read my post again.
Not once in that post did I say that I thought it was right.
I ust said that according to Islamic law it is right.
And in my opinion, western society has no right whatsoever to interfere with an outside culture.
Sure we can criticise, sure we can say it is wrong, but at the end of the day this is nothing but culture.

Originally Posted by Dr. Baltar

Please read my post again.
Not once in that post did I say that I thought it was right.
I ust said that according to Islamic law it is right.
And in my opinion, western society has no right whatsoever to interfere with an outside culture.
Sure we can criticise, sure we can say it is wrong, but at the end of the day this is nothing but culture.

According to Islamic law, killing you for not being a Muslim is right.

Where's you cultural equivalence argument now?

Originally Posted by Dr. Baltar

Please read my post again.
Not once in that post did I say that I thought it was right.
I ust said that according to Islamic law it is right.
And in my opinion, western society has no right whatsoever to interfere with an outside culture.
Sure we can criticise, sure we can say it is wrong, but at the end of the day this is nothing but culture.

This kind of cultural subjectivism is not only lazy, it's dangerous. If cultural relativism is the correct way to view the world, then we had no business interfering during WWII, Amnesty International is an immoral organization, and the UN ought to be disbanded.

Stoning a woman is either right or it is wrong. Saying that one nation views it as okay and another doesn't is not a worthwhile contribution to any argument. Ethical relativism tells us that our moral attitudes are only feelings instead of reasoning, that moral disagreement cannot exist (when we see every day that it does). On the contrary, if a nation is killing its own people but that nation views this as morally correct, they are right about it or they are wrong. It cannot be both, and it cannot be neither.

We may not always be morally correct in our reasoning, but that hardly means that the reasoning isn't important.

Originally Posted by solecistic

This kind of cultural subjectivism is not only lazy, it's dangerous. If cultural relativism is the correct way to view the world, then we had no business interfering during WWII, Amnesty International is an immoral organization, and the UN ought to be disbanded.

Stoning a woman is either right or it is wrong. Saying that one nation views it as okay and another doesn't is not a worthwhile contribution to any argument. Ethical relativism tells us that our moral attitudes are only feelings instead of reasoning, that moral disagreement cannot exist (when we see every day that it does). On the contrary, if a nation is killing its own people but that nation views this as morally correct, they are right about it or they are wrong. It cannot be both, and it cannot be neither.

We may not always be morally correct in our reasoning, but that hardly means that the reasoning isn't important.

That's what I said.

Originally Posted by Dr. Baltar

Please read my post again.
Not once in that post did I say that I thought it was right.
I ust said that according to Islamic law it is right.
And in my opinion, western society has no right whatsoever to interfere with an outside culture.
Sure we can criticise, sure we can say it is wrong, but at the end of the day this is nothing but culture.

but interfering with outside cultures is a staple of my culture! how dare you take away my right to interfere!

as sole said, this cultural relativism is dangerous, but it only takes the smallest bit of thinking through to realise that it's also incoherent.