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    <1% of people who use insanity defenses are successful

    that being said some of those cases have been absolutely crucial in setting precedents that may or may not save a guilty person from jail in the future so tbh it is a rather important issue if you care about the criminal justice system

    my personal belief is a very idealistic one and if i was given power of the world i'm not sure i would implement it tbh. i feel as though everything people are born as should be taken at face value. got an mental illness? outside of friends/families/private organizations you should be treated exactly the same by the government. killed your family because of "insanity"? you should go to jail undoubtedly. i believe if you show interest in partaking in therapy and rehabilitation your jail sentence should be altered slightly (think if you got 25 years, you serve 20 and then 5 in a hospital) assuming your insanity defense was accepted. but to completely shift blame off of somebody WHO'S FAULT IT WAS is asinine imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faesce View Post
    >1% of people who use insanity defenses are successful
    this says:

    "greater than 1% of people who use insanity defenses are succesful"


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    Quote Originally Posted by faesce View Post
    but to completely shift blame off of somebody WHO'S FAULT IT WAS is asinine imo.
    passing the buck is as american as cheeseburgers, fireworks and obesity

    i mean our culture revolves so much about finding one person solely responsible for something that couldn't possibly be one person's fault just to assuage an artificially filled desire for 'justice' that i can't see anyone doing anything any different any time soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by faesce View Post
    >1% of people who use insanity defenses are successful

    that being said some of those cases have been absolutely crucial in setting precedents that may or may not save a guilty person from jail in the future so tbh it is a rather important issue if you care about the criminal justice system
    Not according to any currently practicing attorney.

    Quote Originally Posted by faesce View Post
    my personal belief is a very idealistic one and if i was given power of the world i'm not sure i would implement it tbh. i feel as though everything people are born as should be taken at face value. got an mental illness? outside of friends/families/private organizations you should be treated exactly the same by the government. killed your family because of "insanity"? you should go to jail undoubtedly. i believe if you show interest in partaking in therapy and rehabilitation your jail sentence should be altered slightly (think if you got 25 years, you serve 20 and then 5 in a hospital) assuming your insanity defense was accepted. but to completely shift blame off of somebody WHO'S FAULT IT WAS is asinine imo.
    This is my feeling. We have equal rights, not equal abilities, and if you were born with a penchant for violence you should be punished the same as the person born with juvenile diabetes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    this says:

    "greater than 1% of people who use insanity defenses are succesful"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atmosfear View Post
    Not according to any currently practicing attorney.
    wut? not sure what exactly you're saying here

    are you trying to imply that insanity plea precedents are not set and are not used or what because i know quite a few defense lawyers and i've heard in several difference instances of people getting reduced sentences or none at all because of mental health most notably one gentleman who raped his daughter and got two months jail w/ work release (this happened extremely recently think: under 2 weeks ago)

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