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    I'd much prefer he didn't post at all.

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    I would like to see an advocate of Israeli policy or Zionist (these two really are one in the same) argue their point of view. It seems only the dumb ones are here, that's why all they have are one-liners with no content. Maybe the argument for Israel just can't be made with all the facts; this can't always be true though, just look at Alan Dershowitz, the master of putting a spin on things.

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    It depends on what exactly you mean by an "argument for Israel", I guess. But I'd agree that it is essentially impossible for an objective observer to argue that Israel isn't guilty of war crimes as well as of other illegal activities (e.g. settlements). A broader "argument for Israel" (i.e. it's existence as a state, etc.) is probably more feasible although plenty of people will disagree with such an argument.

    I don't think that it's entirely fair to say that a Zionist is the same thing as an advocate of Israeli policy, though. A Zionist is, in pure terms, someone who supports the continued existence of Israel. I think someone can be a Zionist, in that basic sense, while not necessarily being an advocate of Israeli policies. There are certainly plenty of people today who meet that basic definition of "a Zionist" while remaining critical of many Israeli policies.

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