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    Quote Originally Posted by jack burden View Post
    no what's pathetic is the widespread belief that US history is more important than world history when you live in the US
    World history is of utter importance, but nothing is more important than to learn your OWN countries history, and then about the world and how it all fits together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTroy View Post
    World history is of utter importance, but nothing is more important than to learn your OWN countries history, and then about the world and how it all fits together.
    The concept of nation-states is a modern phenomenon. World history is by far more important than learning about one patch of land. Learn world history first to see how the country you are from fits in. There are people who can't point out Iran on a map but want to bomb the fuck out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack burden View Post
    The concept of nation-states is a modern phenomenon. World history is by far more important than learning about one patch of land. Learn world history first to see how the country you are from fits in. There are people who can't point out Iran on a map but want to bomb the fuck out of it.
    i agree, except knowing where a country is on a map isn't quite the same thing as knowing about its history, citizenry, political climate or etc. knowing exactly where something is on a map isn't that important, really, except inasmuch as its location directly comes into a discussion about something else that IS important. like its proximity to israel and the consequences thereof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    i agree, except knowing where a country is on a map isn't quite the same thing as knowing about its history, citizenry, political climate or etc. knowing exactly where something is on a map isn't that important, really, except inasmuch as its location directly comes into a discussion about something else that IS important. like its proximity to israel and the consequences thereof.
    shut up convict

    knowing a country's location is important to understand historical change. if you're talking about the history of europe, the middle east, asia, etc., you need to know regions and locations to put it in context. the islamic world stretched from the iberian peninsula to the steppes so if you're going to talk about the history and spread of islam you're going to want to know who ruled over what region and how that had an impact on future states

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack burden View Post
    shut up convict

    knowing a country's location is important to understand historical change. if you're talking about the history of europe, the middle east, asia, etc., you need to know regions and locations to put it in context. the islamic world stretched from the iberian peninsula to the steppes so if you're going to talk about the history and spread of islam you're going to want to know who ruled over what region and how that had an impact on future states
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    i'm not trying to prove him wrong i am saying why being able to point something out on a map may be more important than one might think

    i don't care if you don't know where sao tome and principe is but holy shit if you can't point out where the major powers of europe are you are an idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack burden View Post
    i'm not trying to prove him wrong i am saying why being able to point something out on a map may be more important than one might think

    i don't care if you don't know where sao tome and principe is but holy shit if you can't point out where the major powers of europe are you are an idiot
    He was just saying it wasn't as important as knowing background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack burden View Post
    i'm not trying to prove him wrong i am saying why being able to point something out on a map may be more important than one might think

    i don't care if you don't know where sao tome and principe is but holy shit if you can't point out where the major powers of europe are you are an idiot
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