Quote Originally Posted by Atmosfear View Post
You are the really dumb kid in class who thinks he has everything figured out and then when he goes to do the work on the board gets revealed for an idiot and then goes home and takes his father's gun and shoots up the school.

What are these natural laws you seem to believe exist?

The natural environment is dynamic with or without us. Your whole ideal is half-baked to begin with because you aren't committing to your stated goals. We don't do chemistry without impacting the environment. If your goal is minimizing environmental impact, you're advocating the hunter-gather lifestyle. But who are we kidding, that's not really your goal, that's what you heard on TV.

Why can't we continue increasing our population? What rule does this break? There are plenty of examples of natural populations increasing beyond carrying capacity (let's just start with red tides, since it's probably the lowest-order example.)

And then to whatever other dumb ideas you've got: you are afforded the luxury of demanding these changes because the rest of the world is willing to sacrifice the environment for personal welfare. It's just the same as the way religion is one of the primary reasons we have the luxury to sit around and criticize religion. These are all necessary advances to get you where you are today.
are you kidding me the natural laws are to live in peace with nature while fellating oneself

also agriculture is the worst thing ever to be invented by man