Thread: Milk them tits and make ice cream.

Originally Posted by sasquash

What? How do you define sentient and self-aware? And why does that matter? If it's cruel, it's cruel. If it's not, it's not. The IQ of the animal attached to the udders isn't too relevant.

I do not define sentient and self-aware, those definitions have already been laid out and cows do not meet the criteria. Cruel is an opinion, and milking cows in my opinion is not cruel.

Originally Posted by MrTroy

I do not define sentient and self-aware, those definitions have already been laid out and cows do not meet the criteria.

Well, what are the definitions, and who decided on them? Are they universally accepted? And again, what difference does it make whether or not they're sentient and self-aware?

Originally Posted by MrTroy

Cruel is an opinion, and milking cows in my opinion is not cruel.

I'm guessing that their point is that an animal living its entire life in captivity just to service the dairy industry, and being killed as soon as its production goes down is what is cruel. Or maybe they feel that the milking process itself is not as humane as it could or should be.