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    clearly i am 17 and togs i am a little hurt by this, although a little in doubt that you had higher expectations of me

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    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
    clearly i am 17 and togs i am a little hurt by this, although a little in doubt that you had higher expectations of me
    I expected educated opinions not generalizations.

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    The fact that you didn't have to respond to my post in german is the exact reason you can fuck off I stopped reading after that.

    Actually I didn't. You clearly know nothing about political science if you believe a global body can play police force issues of power and sovereignty abound ho hum polisci 101 UN failure etc etc

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    fair enough, although world police is a bit of a catchword that doesn't accurately describe what's going on. The US's intervention in Kuwait wasn't necessary - ideally, the task should've fallen to the UN, which would have given it credibility and actually made the body be more effective. Actually, a lot of america's invasions along these lines would've done the world better good had they been done through the UN. Theoretically speaking, a global body attached to no nation in particular that maintains peace and steps on overreaching national hands (which applies equally to iraq in kuwait, but also america in vietnam) would do the world a lot of good, and building the UN into something along those lines (which is, i think, what it sees itself as idealistically) and then actually giving it the name and power to carry this out would be nothig but beneficial

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    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
    fair enough, although world police is a bit of a catchword that doesn't accurately describe what's going on. The US's intervention in Kuwait wasn't necessary - ideally, the task should've fallen to the UN, which would have given it credibility and actually made the body be more effective. Actually, a lot of america's invasions along these lines would've done the world better good had they been done through the UN. Theoretically speaking, a global body attached to no nation in particular that maintains peace and steps on overreaching national hands (which applies equally to iraq in kuwait, but also america in vietnam) would do the world a lot of good, and building the UN into something along those lines (which is, i think, what it sees itself as idealistically) and then actually giving it the name and power to carry this out would be nothig but beneficial
    The Persian Gulf war was not only the United States, it was a mult-national defense of over 25 countries (a move, I believe, that went through NATO) that moved in after the UN, sadly but unsurprisingly, failed to do its job.

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    Slobaknob Milosevic says thanks america

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    Ethnic albanians say fuck america

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    whoops! i should actually study history instead of relying on what i remember being said year ago. my bad guys

    edit: it probably doesn't work or make sense, but if the US would have invaded under the UN flag and done the job in the name of the UN, it would have been two birds with one stone, was my idea

    post post script: my knowledge of middle east conflicts and the nuances involved isn't exactly in depth
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    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
    whoops! i should actually study history instead of relying on what i remember being said year ago. my bad guys

    edit: it probably doesn't work or make sense, but if the US would have invaded under the UN flag and done the job in the name of the UN, it would have been two birds with one stone, was my idea
    http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unikom/

    The UN moved peacekeeping forces in after the Iraqi withdrawal. In fact, the UN authorized the use of force in a resolution to aid Kuwait. That resolution was signed by a number of countries.

    US-led simply meant strategy and logistics fell on them, not that they were solely the ones fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
    post post script: my knowledge of middle east conflicts and the nuances involved isn't exactly in depth
    Would you consider yourself more of an athlete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Would you consider yourself more of an athlete?
    Yes, yes I would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Would you consider yourself more of an athlete?
    I am leagues beyond you in athleticism

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    well as the last remaining superpower in the world it is our duty to continue both the glorious and douchey policies of the british empire abroad ok
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    we did it

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    i think that darth vader probably has more formal education than me

    i just read about this shit here and there and think a little trying to come up with a decent opinion about it.

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    AMERIKKKA FUCK YEA!!!
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    Did Coq succeed from any further discussion on this matter?

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    i am pretty happy with my response to atmosfear's declaration of american glory

    i mean if someone wants to deconstruct what i'm saying and call me an idiot feel free otherwise how will i learn?

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    As long as I'm out before my ship's deployment to sit and spin circles I don't care what happens.
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    i prefer modest mouse/sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think View Post
    ok but I referenced this beforehand and this is how I would pronounce it (except the slightly french sounding "jod" for "jad"

    words

    your dirty ethnic post colonial character
    oh ok hey i don't care


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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    oh ok hey i don't care
    I hope you don't think anything but the reference to pedantry was intended to be even slightly genuinely insulting; only if I was aiming at that I wouldn't have piled those sets of racist words together - that's comedic and undermines it's own content rather than working as an attack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think View Post
    I hope you don't think anything but the reference to pedantry was intended to be even slightly genuinely insulting; only if I was aiming at that I wouldn't have piled those sets of racist words together - that's comedic and undermines it's own content rather than working as an attack
    oh no i was just trying to be gratuitously insulting to you by saying i don't care

    ps i read "pedantry" at first as "pederasty" and now i have blue balls you prick


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