Thread: I hope this is an appropriate first post.

Originally Posted by Darth Vader

Not really, it actually works on a small scale, (aka Cuba) but on a large scale (aka USSR) turns out badly for everyone involved.

Yeah, I bet the human rights violations in Cuba are working extremely well. Not to mention the "scratch-my-back etc" mentality that many Cubans turn to to circumvent government restriction.

There are still communes in China that it works pretty well for.

You're still an idiot though.

What was that enver hoxha lover's name?


Could this be his gimmick?

Originally Posted by coqauvin

also, clearly communism is the answer, but that's mostly because i want to spite ayn rand

fuck off ayn rand is a genius who was way ahead of her time. WHO IS JOHN GALT WHO IS JOHN GALT OBAMA IS KILLING PRIVATE ENTERPRISE AND SLEEPING WITH CORPORATIONS AT THE SAME TIME

Originally Posted by faesce

togs this kid is leagues beyond you in intelligence

Gotta learn to let go.

Could be the result of a) mob mentality or b) it happened to be the same point I remembered he was 17 and probably couldn't provide him with constructive criticism because he felt he was above it.

I didn't read the post, I just assumed the odds of there being more than one person on the internet whose posts would interest me this little were pretty slim


Also, you just gotta bust my balls today don't you fucko?

Originally Posted by Darth Vader

mrdie? am i saying that right by saying "Mister Die?" anyone wanna explain?

A historically educated poster. Equally as ignorant.

That gave mrdie way too much credit.

gwahir you have a bad habit of praising people as you're putting them down

Originally Posted by gwahir

mrdie was both more and less annoying.

mrdie assumed that everyone prepared to call him an idiot was also prepared to engage in a philosophical or historical debate with him, which was not at all true

however you seem to be able to just take a hit so that is at least to your credit

gwahir while i agree with your right to have an opinion i have some books i think you should read on enver hoxha and once you are done reading them i'd like to have a discussion on the merits of his socioeconomic policies and how they might be implemented in modern nation-states. hold on let me find them

In b4 gigantic post about enver hoxha

Hoxha was born in Gjirokastër, a city in southern Albania that has been home to many prominent families. He was the son of a Bektashi Muslim Tosk cloth merchant who traveled widely across Europe and the United States of America, and the major influence on Enver during these years was his uncle, Hysen Hoxha ([hyˈsɛn ˈhɔdʒa]). Hysen Hoxha was a militant who campaigned vigorously for the independence of Albania, which occurred when Enver was four years old. Enver took to these ideas very strongly, especially after King Zog came to power in 1928. At age 16 he helped found and became secretary of the Students Society of Gjirokastër, which protested against the monarchist government. After the Society was closed down by the government, he left his hometown and moved to Korçë, continuing his studies in a French high school. Here he learned French history, literature and philosophy. In this city he read for the first time the Communist Manifesto allegedly given to him by a worker named Koçi Bako, though this has never been substantiated by any independent source.

In 1930, Hoxha went to study at the University of Montpellier in France on a state scholarship given to him by the Queen Mother for the faculty of natural sciences. He attended the lessons and the conferences of the Association of Workers organized by the French Communist Party, but he soon dropped out because he wanted to pursue a degree in either philosophy or law. After a year, not having much interest in biology he left Montepellier to go to Paris, hoping to continue his university studies. He took courses in the faculty of philosophy at the Sorbonne and, in the Marxist environment of the French capital, he collaborated with L'Humanité, writing articles on the situation in Albania under the pseudonym Lulo Malessori, and getting involved in the Albanian Communist Group under the tutelage of Llazar Fundo, who also taught him law. He soon dropped out once more and from 1934 to 1936 he was a secretary at the Albanian consulate in Brussels, attached to the personnel office of Queen Mother Sadijé. He was dismissed after the consul discovered that his employee had deposited Marxist materials and books in his office. He returned to Albania in 1936 and became a grammar school teacher in Korçë. As a result of his extensive education, Hoxha was fluent in French and had a working knowledge of Italian, Serbo-Croatian, English and Russian. As a leader, he would often reference Le Monde and the International Herald Tribune.

Hoxha was dismissed from his teaching post following the 1939 Italian invasion for refusing to join the Albanian Fascist Party. He opened a tobacco shop in Tirana called Flora where soon a small communist group started gathering. Eventually the Fascist government closed it down.

On 8 November 1941, the Communist Party of Albania (later renamed the Albanian Party of Labour in 1948) was founded. Hoxha was chosen as one of 7 members of the provisional Central Committee. After the September 1942 Conference at Pezë, the National Liberation Front was founded. Its purpose was to unite the anti-Fascist Albanians regardless of ideology or class.

By March 1943, the first National Conference of the Communist Party elected him formally as First Secretary. During the war, the Soviet Union's role was negligible, which makes Albania the only nation occupied during World War II whose independence was not determined by a great power. In 10 July 1943 the Albanian partisan groups were organized in regular units of companies, battalions and brigades and named Albanian National Liberation Army. The General Headquarter was created with Spiro Moisiu as the commander and Enver Hoxha as political commissary. Communist partisans in Yugoslavia had a much more practical role, helping to plan attacks and exchanging supplies, but communication between them and the Albanians was limited and letters would often arrive late, sometimes well after a plan had been agreed upon by the National Liberation Army without consultation from the Yugoslav partisans. In August, a secret meeting was held at Mukje between the Balli Kombëtar (National Front), which was both anti-Communist and anti-Fascist, and the Communist Party. The result of this was an agreement to fight together against the Italians. In order to encourage the Balli Kombëtar to sign, a Greater Albania was agreed to, which included Kosovo (part of Yugoslavia) and Çamëria (part of Greece).

A situation soon developed however when the Yugoslav Communists disagreed with the goal of a Greater Albania and asked the Communists in Albania to withdraw their agreement. According to Hoxha, Josip Broz Tito had agreed that "Kosovo was Albanian" but that Serbian opposition made transfer an unwise option. After the Albanian Communists repudiated the Greater Albania agreement, the Balli Kombëtar condemned the Communists, who in turn accused the Balli Kombëtar of siding with the Italians. The Balli Kombëtar, however lacked support from the people. After judging the communists as an immediate threat to the country, the Balli Kombëtar sided with the Germans, fatally hurting its image among those fighting the Fascists. The Communists quickly added to its ranks many of those disillusioned with the Balli Kombëtar and took center stage in the fight for liberation.

The Permet National Congress held during that time called for a "new democratic Albania for the people." King Zog was prohibited from visiting Albania ever again, which further increased the Communists control. The Anti-Fascist Committee for National Liberation was founded, with Hoxha as its chairman. On 22 October, the Committee became the provisional government of Albania after a meeting in Berat and Hoxha was chosen as interim Prime Minister. Tribunals were set up to try alleged war criminals who were designated "enemies of the people" and were presided over by Koçi Xoxe.

After liberation from the fascist occupation on 29 November 1944, several Albanian partisan divisions crossed the border into German occupied Yugoslavia and there they fought alongside Tito's partisans and the Soviet Red Army in a joint campaign which succeeded in driving out the last pockets of German resistance . Marshal Tito, during a Yugoslavian conference in his later years, thanked Hoxha for the assistance that the Albanian partisans had given during the War for National Liberation (Lufta Nacionalçlirimtare). Albanians celebrate their independence day on November 28 (which is the date on which they declared their independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1912), while in the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia the National Liberation festivity date is 29 November. The Democratic Front succeeded the National Liberation Front in August 1945 and the first elections in post-war Albania were held on 2 December. Only members of the Communist Party were allowed to stand, and the government reported that 90% of Albanians voted for it.

Mang, can me, your brother, and you all join in wonderful gleeful drug use and musical appreciation one day?

ok

i heard that people aren't fully wise until they're 25. up to that age their brains are still undergoing the same development that people experience during their adolescence, though to a smaller degree in their early 20's.

hahaha what in the hell is this bitchfest

this thread is now about the cleveland show

it's alright

Originally Posted by gina

hahaha what in the hell is this bitchfest

this thread is now about the cleveland show

it's alright

no it isn't shut up