[Mafia 2] Brit or Shit

**mutton** · 08-12-2010, 05:44 AM

14 players
Atmoscheer
coqauvin
infernus
KT.
MrShrike
sailor jack
simonj
ShitFace
Snead
sponge
sycld
Think
WellAdjusted
zuelan

Brit (11): You are a Brit living in the Casualmouth Borough of Discourshire-under-Cwm. You want to eliminate the Shits to maintain the borough status of your district.

Shit (3): You are a pile of shit masquerading as a Brit, and you plan to take over this borough. You have already taken over other boroughs because they smell similar and fail to detect you. Each night, you get to swarm one Brit in his sleep to put him in a shit-induced coma.

Smeller (1): You are a Brit unique to Casualmouth with the special ability to sneak up to a player's canopy bed and smell out his role each night.

[edited to add] Purifier (1): You are a Brit with the ability to visit one player each night to purify him in case he gets covered in shit. You prevent night kills, not day lynches. You are allowed to purify yourself.

On each day, vote to flush another player down the loo by bolding their name in your post. The player who receives the most votes dies and his identity is revealed; a majority vote is not required. If there is a tie, I will flip a tanner to decide who gets flushed.

Do not post at night.
PMs between all parties are allowed during the day. Only Shits can PM each other at night.
Dead players cannot post or PM.
Non-players cannot post ITT.

Day 1 begins now and ends on Sunday, August 15 at 11 PM BST.
A deadline means we don't have to wait for inactive players, and better allows for vote changing strategies.

**Atmosfear** · 08-12-2010, 07:04 AM

I'm going to throw this out there... MrShrike clearly doesn't understand the point of lynching, but since mutton doesn't require a majority vote, I don't think he would necessarily be a liability. Other than being misguided, he actually seems to understand the game decently well.

Rules question: What if we have a majority vote before Sunday? Does the final vote end the day?

**mutton** · 08-12-2010, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Rules question: What if we have a majority vote before Sunday? Does the final vote end the day?

I think it's generally better to wait:
- There may be a late argument against lynching, for example "I am the Smeller, he is a Brit."
- The player being lynched may have important info to reveal, for example Think's final accusations in the first game barely made it. This would probably be in a different tone than if we allowed a final message when they have already died.
- This situation shouldn't come up often to drag the game. If we go 13-1 against Absolution then we apply common sense and move on to night.

If you guys want to change any rule, such as add a healer, I will do it.

**simonj** · 08-12-2010, 08:34 AM

/flush shitface

I mean it's in his name for Christ's sake.

**ShitFace** · 08-12-2010, 09:36 AM

lol I knew that would come up soon
bit obvious though don't you think?

**simonj** · 08-12-2010, 09:49 AM

Double bluff.

**coqauvin** · 08-12-2010, 11:11 AM

/flush mutton

butt seriously, there isn't a healer in this game? I thought the population would support one? I'm kind of in favour of it, but that's mostly habit.

**Atmosfear** · 08-12-2010, 12:21 PM

Based on the idiocy of the last town I don't think a healer would be a bad idea.

Shitface is there any reason we shouldn't lynch you?

**ShitFace** · 08-12-2010, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Based on the idiocy of the last town I don't think a healer would be a bad idea.

Shitface is there any reason we shouldn't lynch you?

yeah, i'm not a shit

**sycld** · 08-12-2010, 05:52 PM

i've sort of lost interest in this whole thing.

mutton sent me a pm telling me i'm a shit.

there how's that for being obvious?

**zuelan** · 08-12-2010, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by sycld

i've sort of lost interest in this whole thing.

mutton sent me a pm telling me i'm a shit.

there how's that for being obvious?

thats a shame

/flush sycld

**zuelan** · 08-12-2010, 01:22 PM

I agree with atmosfear, a healer would be nice

**sycld** · 08-12-2010, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Based on the idiocy of the last town I don't think a healer would be a bad idea.

Shitface is there any reason we shouldn't lynch you?

Originally Posted by zuelan

I agree with atmosfear, a healer would be nice

yeah because we didn't have a healer last time, and that's would have made such a great deal of difference.

oh wait.

Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Why would an innocent start the game double bluffing? Sycld is either innocent or mafia, but if he doesn't want to play, he doesn't want to play.

oh, you caught me at my double bluff.

**sponge** · 08-12-2010, 01:29 PM

flush sycld because he is a darkie faggot and lynching him last time would have been a good move

other candidates are think and mrshrike because they are both faggots who use way too many words for the internet

**mutton** · 08-12-2010, 01:38 PM

Ok due to demand I have randomized one of the Brits to be a Purifier. Editing first post. (If you think this already affects the dynamics of the game I will randomize all the roles again and start over.)

**WellAdjusted** · 08-12-2010, 05:16 PM

changed my mind

**MrShrike** · 08-12-2010, 07:37 PM

Well you all know what I think - any flushing at this point favours the shits, but obviously we've got no choice. Until and unless we actually have some information from this round that points to a people colluding, I abstain.

Even someone as obviously guilty as sycld is just as likely to be innocent and just double-bluffing - in which case flushing him won't help, it'll just bring the shits 1 step closer to winning.
Unless he really is guilty and is actually triple-bluffing. TL;DR - divide by zero.

Atmosfear, I couldn't help but notice that yesterday before the game began you were eager to tell me what a huge idiot I am who has no idea what I'm talking about, but then very first thing you do once the game starts is tell everyone what an excellent understanding of the game I have.

Care to comment?

**simonj** · 08-12-2010, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by MrShrike

Well you all know what I think - any flushing at this point favours the shits, but obviously we've got no choice. Until and unless we actually have some information from this round that points to a people colluding, I abstain.

Even someone as obviously guilty as sycld is just as likely to be innocent and just double-bluffing - in which case flushing him won't help, it'll just bring the shits 1 step closer to winning.
Unless he really is guilty and is actually triple-bluffing. TL;DR - divide by zero.

Atmosfear, I couldn't help but notice that yesterday before the game began you were eager to tell me what a huge idiot I am who has no idea what I'm talking about, but then very first thing you do once the game starts is tell everyone what an excellent understanding of the game I have.

Care to comment?

/unflush shitface
/Flush mr shrike

**MrShrike** · 08-12-2010, 08:07 PM

Actually nevermind Atmosfear, I just noticed that you, coq and zuelan all voted for a healer, so it's fairly unlikely any of you are shits.

**WellAdjusted** · 08-12-2010, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by MrShrike

Actually nevermind Atmosfear, I just noticed that you, coq and zuelan all voted for a healer, so it's fairly unlikely any of you are shits.

I enjoy your logic

I'm going to flush sycld instead

**Infernus** · 08-12-2010, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by MrShrike

Actually nevermind Atmosfear, I just noticed that you, coq and zuelan all voted for a healer, so it's fairly unlikely any of you are shits.

Or they want a good cover.
Only going to /flush sycld because if he did want to play i dont see why he would say he doesn't and no point in keeping someone around who doesnt want to participate

**sycld** · 08-12-2010, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Infernus

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Only going to /flush sycld because if he did want to play i dont see why he would say he doesn't and no point in keeping someone around who doesnt want to participate

Except that you could be actually getting rid of a werewolf fecal mafioso.

List of primary brits to suspect:

Atmosfart
coqauvin
Infernus
Welladjusted
Zuellan

**Infernus** · 08-12-2010, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by MrShrike

Actually nevermind Atmosfear, I just noticed that you, coq and zuelan all voted for a healer, so it's fairly unlikely any of you are shits.

Originally Posted by sycld

Except that you could be actually getting rid of a werewolf fecal mafioso.

Still no downside. You are mafia theres 1 less, you aren't theres someone gone who wasn't going to help anyways.

**sycld** · 08-12-2010, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Infernus

Still no downside. You are mafia theres 1 less, you aren't theres someone gone who wasn't going to help anyways.

Or I could change my mind.

And you're getting rid of a buffer as well: the more non-shits alive the better for the town, even if they are rather disinterested non-shits. That's one more player that the shits have to go through.

Also mutton ffs "Brits vs. shits" is the dumbest variation on this game I have ever heard of.

EDIT:

PMs between all parties are allowed during the day. Only Shits can PM each other at night.

That's rather a silly rule. PM's between all parties should be allowed during any phase, excluding as always the dead of course.

**Atmosfear** · 08-12-2010, 08:08 PM

Why would an innocent start the game double bluffing? Sycld is either innocent or mafia, but if he doesn't want to play, he doesn't want to play.

MrShrike just because you are wrong doesn't mean you aren't valuable. Someone who knows the rules and tries to understand the multiple angles of the game, even if misguided, is more valuable than someone who isn't active or is only mildly interested in playing effectively to a successful outcome.

I'd rather lynch a Shit but since it's a random vote day, might as well kill the disinterested.

**MrShrike** · 08-12-2010, 08:19 PM

Well because Sycld's disinterest is a complete act, obviously. What kind of act is the only question, but most likely he just likes prancing around for like a great big fag and saying 'look at me look at me' at lot.

**sycld** · 08-12-2010, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by MrShrike

Well because Sycld's disinterest is a complete act, obviously. What kind of act is the only question, but most likely he just likes prancing around for like a great big fag and saying 'look at me look at me' at lot.

you know whatever i do it's characterized as acting like "a great big fag"

i mean it's technically true but still

**coqauvin** · 08-12-2010, 08:39 PM

flush sycld

whether it's a double-bluff or he's just not interested in the game, neither is a point in his favour.

**mutton** · 08-12-2010, 09:06 PM

current votes

Code:

		votes against	voted to flush
Atmoscheer	0		
coqauvin	0		sycld
infernus	0		
KT.		0		
MrShrike	1		
sailor jack	0		
simonj		0		MrShrike
ShitFace	0		
Snead		0		
sponge		0		sycld
sycld		4		
Think		0		
WellAdjusted	0		sycld
zuelan		0		sycld

**Atmosfear** · 08-12-2010, 09:19 PM

/flush sycld

I just don't see why you would double-bluff unprovoked whatsoever. A townie (uh, Brit) masquerading as a mafia (uh, Shit) doesn't benefit anyone at all, unless mutton is lying about the number of roles he has included (Village Idiot, etc)

I mean, I guess it would be valuable if he were a special townie, but why draw the attention immediately when no one has any other basis for voting.

**Infernus** · 08-12-2010, 10:07 PM

ok why are you defending yourself if you dont want to play....

**Atmosfear** · 08-13-2010, 07:51 AM

I'm not 100% convinced this isn't contrived faggotry from sycld (who knows how those hobos work for fucks sake) but I'm not convinced we have a better option. A player who only sometimes plays is still a liability and will probably still end up looking mafia.

**Atmosfear** · 08-13-2010, 07:52 AM

Homos (iPhone autocorrects the capitalization on it's name but fights me on "homo" Jesus Christ)

**KT.** · 08-13-2010, 09:22 AM

flush scyld for pretty much all the reasons previously given.

Even if he randomly regained interest, what's to say he won't lose interest in the future.

**sycld** · 08-13-2010, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by zuelan

sycld really how come you've regained interest?

and don't say you quite simply had a change of heart

Haha, I suppose being pushed towards the gallows essentially for a single two-line post that I thought most people wouldn't think twice about did it.

Well, that and the knowledge that I'm going to be flushed anyway.

Originally Posted by KT.

flush scyld for pretty much all the reasons previously given.

Even if he randomly regained interest, what's to say he won't lose interest in the future.

I find it amusing that you're going for the disinterested players first, considering that the strategy in the last game was the complete opposite.

Well, I suppose repeating a failing strategy is insanity, so more power to y'all. I'll just be in the corner coating my body in petroleum jelly to make the process easier for y'all. If anyone wants to help or just gawk, feel free.

**sponge** · 08-13-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by sycld

Haha, I suppose being pushed towards the gallows essentially for a single two-line post that I thought most people wouldn't think twice about did it.

Well, that and the knowledge that I'm going to be flushed anyway.

boo fuckity hoo. when you posted your sob story about becoming uninterested, I was the only person to have voted to lynch/flush you. that hardly made it certain you were to be flushed (most people don't even listen to me, kinda like what happened with scars). it became certain after you said 'fuck this shit I'm going home and taking my toys with me'

**sycld** · 08-13-2010, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by sponge

boo fuckity hoo. when you posted your sob story about becoming uninterested, I was the only person to have voted to lynch/flush you. that hardly made it certain you were to be flushed (most people don't even listen to me, kinda like what happened with scars). it became certain after you said 'fuck this shit I'm going home and taking my toys with me'

Lol I wasn't complaining that you weren't playing nice. I was just saying that I thought people would pay as much attention to it as VS's "lynch the faggo" post.

Also I didn't even realize that you had already voted to flush me at all.

**zuelan** · 08-13-2010, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by sycld

Haha, I suppose being pushed towards the gallows essentially for a single two-line post that I thought most people wouldn't think twice about did it.

Well, that and the knowledge that I'm going to be flushed anyway.

that makes sence, you were actually very obvious with a post or two in the last game and nothing happened, but to do it early in the game is pretty much signing your death sentence, and you wouldn't do that unless you had a reason.

Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

I'm not 100% convinced this isn't contrived faggotry from sycld (who knows how those hobos work for fucks sake) but I'm not convinced we have a better option. A player who only sometimes plays is still a liability and will probably still end up looking mafia.

i'm not convinced either, for all we know he could be the healer (he lost interest right around the time said role was announced) but oh well theres still a slight chance hes one of the shits.

meh, perhaps i'm reading too much into this, sycld's fate is sealed at this point.

**sycld** · 08-13-2010, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by zuelan

that makes sence, you were actually very obvious with a post or two in the last game and nothing happened, but to do it early in the game is pretty much signing your death sentence, and you wouldn't do that unless you had a reason.

Jesus fucking Christ... when was I so obvious when it mattered at the beginning of the game, compared to mutton who was fucking transparent since day 1?

**zuelan** · 08-13-2010, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by sycld

Jesus fucking Christ... when was I so obvious when it mattered at the beginning of the game, compared to mutton who was fucking transparent since day 1?

actually i was talking about this one

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