Thread: LOST [Spoilers]

Fucking Lost. Every week. EVERY FUCKING WEEK!

It's as if every episode is written by M Night Shaylaman if M Night Shaylaman had an ounce of talent.

I want it to be next week now.

Ever since the first episode I have been on the edge of my seat and now I am about to fall over to see what Locke does to Ben.

i really want to believe ben is a good guy

i really really do

but i just don't

This episode made me think maybe Widmore is a good guy. Then is made me not believe that. Then I believed it again, then I didn't. Honestly, this this point I wouldn't be that disappointed if it turned out the whole island was being controlled by space lobsters from space.

look i simply cannot believe widmore is a good guy because he seems to be really selfish and vicious and well he sent men to kill everyone on the island.

but ben happily killed everyone on the freighter.

i think neither is the good guy; they're two selfish bastards warring over the island and neither cares about anyone who happens to be caught in the crossfire.

I thought maybe Ben knew what had to happen when he came to visit Locke and saved him from killing himself and I was like "Hell yes! Ben is a good guy!" Then he killed Locke and I was like "Okay, well maybe Ben knows what needs to happen, he knows what needs to be done to get back!" and then he left Locke hanging up in the room and I was like "Ben, man, what the hell?"

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

I thought maybe Ben knew what had to happen when he came to visit Locke and saved him from killing himself and I was like "Hell yes! Ben is a good guy!" Then he killed Locke and I was like "Okay, well maybe Ben knows what needs to happen, he knows what needs to be done to get back!" and then he left Locke hanging up in the room and I was like "Ben, man, what the hell?"

Well he needed to make it look like suicide to a) make himself not look like a murderer and b) make sure the cops wouldn't be looking into it.

Originally Posted by simonj

Well he needed to make it look like suicide to a) make himself not look like a murderer and b) make sure the cops wouldn't be looking into it.

In my mind if he was the "good" guy he would just bring dead Locke with him to Jill the butcher. But he left him there and said he would "miss, you, Locke" and there was no turning back any more.

But then he wouldn't have been able to see Jack and use the dead lock funeral thing to gain his trust.

Essentially he had to die because it wasn't a choice. If he hadn't killed himself, he would have died another way...and he did by the hands of Ben. I guess there still may be some saving grace for Ben. But as we come to realize, there is no good or bad but rather shades of grey between the two.

I am very sad that Matthew Abbadon died.

Originally Posted by gwahir

i really want to believe ben is a good guy

i really really do

but i just don't

I don't really care either way, Ben is my favorite character of all time. He's the man with the plan.

I don't think that LOST really has "good guys" and "bad guys". All of the characters believe that they are doing the right thing and that they are the good guys, but it's all relative.

Except for Keamy. He was just an evil cunt.

i gotta say this episode was really boring

Originally Posted by solecistic

i gotta say this episode was really boring

Wait, really?

yeah i dunno lost is starting to lose me a little

i think it's the waiting

Try the 8 month Hiatus.

Goddamnit Ben, goddamnit. I would imagine Locke is finally going to unleash some form of whoopass on him now...or at least he'll try before ben blags his way out of it by surprising Locke with some theory as to why it was necessary.

Locke should be renamed Ben's Bitch.

HOLY FUCK THAT WAS AMAZING

it really was

Absolutely brilliant episode.

please don't tell me that was this season's inclusion of the 4-toed statue

because that is fucking disappointing

Originally Posted by Mang

please don't tell me that was this season's inclusion of the 4-toed statue

because that is fucking disappointing

Uh, I thought it was creepy and the implications about the Orchid resound. Like access to that well whenever the statue was around, and people filling in the well and blocking access to the wheel from that period.

The glimps of the statue also lets us know that the FDW was rocked in, as it was surrounded by stone in the season premiere.

Also, I think that was Sawyer manning the camera for the Marvin Candle video at the opening of the season.

Originally Posted by Mang

please don't tell me that was this season's inclusion of the 4-toed statue

because that is fucking disappointing

I don't think you're going to see too much more of it, but of everything that happened in that episode THAT is what you are harping on?

Fucking poor form Mang.

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

I don't think you're going to see too much more of it, but of everything that happened in that episode THAT is what you are harping on?

Fucking poor form Mang.

rest of the episode was good, the 4-toed statue was the thing I felt most passionately about to post on

I NEED TO KNOW WHO PUT IT THERE AND WHEN

When = A long time ago, before the Orchid.

And it's probably of Jacob.

So when we see it it'll be 'oh shit'.

Originally Posted by MalReynolds

When = A long time ago, before the Orchid.

aye but I need a century

so I can have it set in my mind

Originally Posted by MalReynolds

So when we see it it'll be 'oh shit'.

I like that idea

Originally Posted by MalReynolds

And it's probably of Jacob.

it looked kind of like a girl's figure.

also, it was an interesting episode, but... i just didn't love it. i don't know. lots of story, but it didn't really give us anything. the last two seasons have been so generous with giving us answers and ideas and things to play with and this one really gave us nothing. maybe i've just been spoiled for a while. i'm not complaining.

Yeah it looked very Egyptian and similar to the animal statue here (middle one)

How about Sawyer and Juliet together?

That made me think 'awwww' and then I hated myself for it because I'm usually so against mushy storylines in shows like this. But I think they make a good couple.

Horace is confusing me. I thought he was married to some other chick like they showed in Ben's flashback to the time when he was a kid.

I'm also wondering who the kid could be. If the kid was born in 1977, he's be 27 in 2004. Whose 27 and male on the island?

Also, could Ben be in the Dharma camp as a teen?

I have a feeling we will see young Ben.

If it's 1977, 27 years will pass before flight 815 crashes.

Is Ben as old as teenage+27? He could very well be.

@ 77 I would say he is not a child. Certainly not.

We may see him actually become an other.