Thread: Need help on choosing a laptop

Go with the Asus:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-...ist.844.0.html

If you compare the 9800GS on the Asus vs the 4570 on that site you'll see that the 9800 does much better.

As Rick said, generally, there's nothing wrong with refurbished units. They'll likely come with the same warranty that a new unit has so even if it breaks again it is covered by warranty.

Either way, both laptops are good and will suite your needs.