Thread: Get truck or fuc...you get my point.

And to run a diesel on oil you have to have a nice sized filtering setup. And they can cost some jack and take time to get enough to run your truck everyday on.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

This is spoken like someone who doesn't live in the real world.

How so, exactly? Was it the part about alternate fuels being potentially impractical, or the part about driving a sensible car?

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Natural gas is unreasonable. It's availability is severely limited, and it's trading one fossil fuel for another. Vegetable oil is just goddamned retarded. Who is going to buy a brand new $45,000 truck and immediately void their warranty?

Who the hell said to buy a brand new, $45,000 truck? If you want a diesel truck to run on veggie oil or biodiesel, look for a used one. The OP was interested in alternate fuels, so I pointed out that this might be a more viable option than natural gas.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

E85 is obviously lower gas mileage than regular 87 octane. The attraction of E85 isn't driving range, it's mileage per dollar. If you're paying $4 for gas and getting 20 miles per gallon, you're paying $.20 for every mile. If you're paying $1.50 for E85 and getting 10 miles per gallon, you're paying $.15 for every mile. Considering you pay nothing extra for GM's Flex Fuel engine, there's no drawback.

Yes, and as I pointed out, if the government subsidies for ethanol ever run out, that cost per mile on E85 is going to be quite a bit higher than it is now. If you're hell bent on a GM truck, and the flex-fuel engine doesn't cost any extra, then yeah, you might as well get it. But it still makes a lot more sense for most people to get a car.

Originally Posted by Anonymous d

And to run a diesel on oil you have to have a nice sized filtering setup. And they can cost some jack and take time to get enough to run your truck everyday on.

Yep, you have to know what you're doing. You need to have a reliable source for the oil, and you probably have to pick it up yourself. You'll have to filter it yourself (not rocket science), and make sure that you have a conversion kit installed. But your fuel is free, so it doesn't take too many miles to make up for the initial investment or the hassle. Especially if you drive a gas hog.

Originally Posted by sasquash

How so, exactly? Was it the part about alternate fuels being potentially impractical, or the part about driving a sensible car?

Both. Alternative fuels are impractical and you're impressing your opinions on him without offering an answer to his question.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by sasquash

Who the hell said to buy a brand new, $45,000 truck? If you want a diesel truck to run on veggie oil or biodiesel, look for a used one. The OP was interested in alternate fuels, so I pointed out that this might be a more viable option than natural gas.

He did.

Originally Posted by no_brains_no_worries

Now I really want to get a new truck

Originally Posted by sasquash

Yes, and as I pointed out, if the government subsidies for ethanol ever run out, that cost per mile on E85 is going to be quite a bit higher than it is now. If you're hell bent on a GM truck, and the flex-fuel engine doesn't cost any extra, then yeah, you might as well get it. But it still makes a lot more sense for most people to get a car.

If government subsidies ever run out, then you've spent no extra money and you can run 87 octane like everyone else. Everything you say is one big eye roll.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Both. Alternative fuels are impractical and you're impressing your opinions on him without offering an answer to his question.

He asked if he should get a truck, I told him a sensible car is a better bet. He asked about an alternative fuel vehicle, I told him biodiesel or SVO would be more practical than natural gas. If you can't connect those dots, I can't help you.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

He did.

Christ. I've updated my first post to clarify. I hope you no longer find it confusing.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

If government subsidies ever run out, then you've spent no extra money and you can run 87 octane like everyone else.

Yes, and he'll be stuck with a gas guzzling behemoth and have no recourse the next time gas prices spike, which was part of what he was concerned about in the OP.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Everything you say is one big eye roll.

And everything you say seems designed to convince yourself that you're the smartest person in whatever conversation you're having. Whatever gets you through the night, I suppose.