One Town's War on Gay Teens

**Atmosfear** · 03-12-2012, 02:01 AM

(Disabilities are the pseudo-exception because they are typically genetic or accidental.)

**gwahir** · 03-12-2012, 02:02 AM

really? i mean, is that the relevant difference? i mean, mental and psychological disorders can emerge from the physiology, but they can also be caused externally.

also, there are some "nature" issues we DO persecute (eg pedophilia... if it is a "nature" issue which i guess it would be)

**gwahir** · 03-12-2012, 02:03 AM

obviously i know pedophilia is persecuted because it involves the suffering of minors -- i'm saying the rule that we punish "nature" issues and not "nurture" issues is a false dichotomy

you don't have any more choice with "nature" issues than you do "nurture" issues or vice versa

**gwahir** · 03-12-2012, 02:05 AM

for instance: am i biologically predetermined to wretch at the taste of peanuts and mushrooms? or hate horror movies? or be an atheist? or like slim brunette girls more than any other variety? i can't choose any of those things, and they're certainly not all biological.

**Atmosfear** · 03-12-2012, 03:13 PM

Well, gwahir, you've really done it now... likening homosexual preferences to taste in movies.

**gwahir** · 03-12-2012, 06:56 PM

yes, to make the point that everything is not either biological or a choice.

**gwahir** · 03-12-2012, 09:10 PM

you are so confusing and nonsensical

**coqauvin** · 03-12-2012, 09:18 PM

I think davidsdivad is just ashamed he told everyone that it's not morally superior to explain positions via analogy

**Atmosfear** · 03-12-2012, 09:27 PM

I think gwahir is laughably easy to troll because he lets his convictions get in the way of logic, and then he oversteps his footing and stumbles over foolish comparisons. Gwahir basically exists in a world lacking in the meaningful shades of grey, the ones created when a series of binary realities that he does not understand overlap and contradict his moral convictions. Obviously, logically, I should afford him the benefit of the doubt, but when all I'm doing is trolling him, it leads to these fantastic soundbytes that I he won't have to live down.

Also, DAVIDSDIVAD is a less talented troll.

**Atmosfear** · 03-12-2012, 09:34 PM

Protip, gwahir: All of your counterexamples are legally protected discrimination in just about every country that embraces free speech. If I want to screen my customers for their love of horror movies, and only serve the ones whose opinion agree with mine, I have every right to do so. Which is why Cafe Atmosfear does not serve M Night Shyamalan fans.

You were much better off comparing it to a disability, but I've gotten my fill of this, so don't bother.

**gwahir** · 03-12-2012, 09:56 PM

you entirely missed what i explicitly and repeatedly specified was my point

**gwahir** · 03-12-2012, 10:00 PM

i was making an observation about a logical leap you made. i didn't disagree with the conclusion, but the logic to get there was bad.

which you probably DO know (i hope; otherwise you actually can't read) but now you turn to the "trolling" angle because you've spent too many posts making rubbish rebuttals and now don't want to lose face by going "oh whoops i was wrong"