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    Default Most and Least Marketable Degrees in 2009

    This was given to me, thought you guys might find it interesting too, if not, what the fuck do I care?


    The Most Marketable


    Nursing
    Nursing is one of the best educational investments out there. It requires only an associate degree to break into the field, though a bachelor's is usually preferred.

    On top of an impressive average starting salary -- over $52,000, according to the National Association of Colleges and Employers -- benefits include company-sponsored health care and matched retirement and sometimes additional perks such as tuition reimbursement and student loan forgiveness.

    With the addition of approximately 470,000 jobs between now and 2016, registered nurses will find work in organizations ranging from hospitals and clinics to retirement homes and summer camps. Minimal tuition investment, maximum opportunities.


    Computer/information science
    While almost everyone else took pay cuts last year, computer science grads saw their average starting salary rise nearly 15 percent between 2007 and 2008.

    With starting annual salaries hovering around the $60,000 mark,computer science grads claimed the No. 1 fastest growing occupation in the country -- network systems and data communication analysts -- with the field expected to add over 160,000 jobs between now and 2016.


    Engineering
    If you design it, they will come -- even in times of economic uncertainty. While the financial and housing sectors crumble, those entering the engineering market are still finding decent jobs and decent pay, especially in the areas of computer and project engineering.

    NACE reports that while those majoring in liberal arts fields can expect starting salaries of $30,000 to $35,000 per year, newbie engineers earn an average salary topping $56,000 per year, not including health care, signing bonuses and company-sponsored retirement plans.


    Economics
    Despite the tanking economy, students who know their way around both bull and bear markets (and have the degree to prove it) have a much better shot of landing a well-paying job than most other grads.

    In addition to a nearly $53,000 average starting salary, economics majors can also expect more job options. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, two of the top 20 fastest-growing occupations require economics or business-related degrees to break in.

    The BLS estimates that the market for personal financial advisors will grow 40 percent within the next decade while the market for financial analysts should grow over 30 percent.


    Education
    As the baby boomers exit the teaching market, the field will require new blood to move in. The National Educational Association estimates that in the next decade, more than 2 million new teachers will be needed to replace retirees and tend to increasing student populations.

    The field is especially ripe for bilingual, special education, math and science educators. While teachers' starting salaries have traditionally been lower than those in professions that require comparable education, teachers willing to work in critical-needs areas may be eligible for substantial signing bonuses as well as student loan forgiveness programs.


    The Least Marketable


    Print Journalism
    A great job if you don't need a paycheck. With physical newspapers quickly becoming a thing of the past and magazines dropping like flies, even established journalists with impressive credentials are struggling to survive.

    Payscale.com reports that the median salary for veteran journalists with 20 or more years of experience hovers at $49,000 -- more than $10,000 less than the salary that the average computer science major starts with.

    Experts predict that 2009 will see more print and media closures than did 2008, with rumored layoffs planned by media giants including NBC Universal, Viacom Inc., the Tribune Co., the New York Times Co., and Knight Ridder.


    Advertising
    As media outlets sink and retail amrkets contract, they're taking advertisers with them. The global communications strategy firm ZenithOptimedia estimates that ad spending in North America will fall 5.7 percent in 2009, meaning more unpaid internships and fewer entry-level positions.

    With layoffs expected in three of the largest ad holding companies -- Interpublic, Omnicom and WPP -- 2009 grads will have to fight for their first jobs.


    Architecture
    No budget for new construction means means no budget for those designing the new buildings. Requiring hefty tuition investment (usually four years of undergrad education plus one to two of grad school) for a starting salary that begins in the upper 30's, architecture was one of the riskier degrees even before the recession.

    The recent houing market decline has taken new architect jobs with it. According to the American Institue of Architects, billings for architectural projects nationwide reached an all time low in December 2008 for the second consecutive month, suggesting that industrywide hiring freezes won't let up anytime soon.


    Real Estate
    With one in seven homeowners losing equity on their homes (per the most recent report from Zillow.com), the 2009 housing market will revolve around trying to hang on to current homes rather than selling new ones. Those graduating with associate degrees in real estate may want to come up with a backup career plan.

    Even before the housing collapse, starting salaries for new realtors has always been relatively low ($24,630 per year according to Paysale.com). Since the majority of those int the field have comissioned salaries, new grads may be lucky to scrape by in 2009.


    Film studies
    Kiss the era of multimillion-dollar blockbusters goodbye, at least for a few years. With consumers cutting back on their enterainment budgets, production studios are scaling back on large-scale projects and many independent firms are cutting projects entirely.

    In addition to economic woes, experts predict a second strike by the Screen Actor's Guild, which would shut down projects on both the large and small screen. The LA Times reports that the 2008 screenwriter's strike cost Los Angeles alone at least $380 million and possibly as much as $2.5 billion.

    Recent layoffs at Viacom Inc., NBC Unviversal, Sony and Walt Disney spell out a bleak job market for 2009 film grads.


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    Cool post. I only say that as an engineer.

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    Well at least psychology isn't on the least marketable.
    You cast bong and hit for 420 damage!

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    I guess I should have gone ahead and got that engineering degree that I worked towards for a couple of years and then got lazy and stopped going to school for.
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    Yes, education is in the top 5. Well, that's good news for me and my long-term planning.

    Although I did want to be an architect for a while when I was in middle school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownsocs View Post
    Well at least psychology isn't on the least marketable.
    It is if you don't plan on going on to grad school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    It is if you don't plan on going on to grad school.
    What do you take me for... lazy?
    You cast bong and hit for 420 damage!

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    Sweet, history isn't unmarketable!

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    It's amusing that nursing is a marketable degree but Biology/Medical degrees are not.

    Thanks, Obama.

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    I understand from talking to verbose republicans that Obama is responsible for everything wrong with America right now.

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    Obama is responsible for turning otherwise intelligent people into complete retards

    That's about it right now, watch this space

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    I was watching Obama on the television set earlier and I noticed something.

    Hes black

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    I know having a film degree is worthless, I didn't need you to tell me that

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    I noticed last night that Obama is a fairly terrible speaker.
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    I am glad I have a computer science degree/PgD. But I am out of work. Mostly due to where I live and not being able to drive/not having the resources to move. If I moved to London or somwhere I'd probably walk into a job. Holding out though for something that I can commute to though. Was contemplating training to be a computing teacher in high schools too. I still might play that card.

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    I'm glad I'm in school for ee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djwolford View Post
    I noticed last night that Obama is a fairly terrible speaker.
    Obama is actually a fine orator

    although he has really reined in on the sweeping rhetoric that he used in the election race, so he is seeming a little dull

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    By the looks of things I'ma be alright.

    Also, I wrote a facebook note about Obama's stimulus plan. I will copy it here.
    My empirical, thorough, and totally for serious analysis of Obama's stimulus plan (in 5 steps)

    Step 1: Grab your dick

    Step 2: Spend a trillion dollars to make enough jobs to replace the ones lost so far and the ones which will be lost in the immediate future, as well as to give to people so they can pay some credit cards off.

    Step 3: Realize paying bills doesn't stimulate the economy and that the people who have lost their jobs are either underqualified for or won't lower themselves to the new created jobs.

    Step 4: ??????????

    Step 5: Profit

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    mr e it is the same thing in canada

    here is stephen harper's plan to stimulate the economy:

    put on a blindfold and hurl wads of cash at various industries

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    Hey maybe with all these job losses we can now specialize in markets and churn out quality and high demand product...like efficient green-energy products.

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    Hey instead let's just give everyone tax cuts! That will surely create jobs and save our economy.

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    Hey man, more disposable income.

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    (that I would save)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killuminati View Post
    Hey instead let's just give everyone tax cuts! That will surely create jobs and save our economy.
    Not personal tax cuts, but business tax cuts yes. That would create jobs and save our economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Hey maybe with all these job losses we can now specialize in markets and churn out quality and high demand product...like efficient green-energy products.
    ...for which there is no market since gas is abundant and cheap. Fucking moronic politicians have to entertain the irrational thought patterns of fucking moronic Americans who are too indolent and spoiled to pay the economic price to switch to alternative energy sources while demanding in principle that we sometime eventually in the future switch to alternative energy like we can do that without inconveniencing ourselves.

    In short: WE CAN'T HAVE THE CHEAP, ABUNDANT FOSSIL FUEL THAT WE DEMAND AND AT THE SAME TIME HAVE SUFFICIENT POPULAR OR INDUSTRIAL MOTIVATION TO SWITCH TO ALTERNATIVE FUEL SOURCES. AMERICANS: YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TO, YOU STUPIDS.

    Any green energy plan, whether it's Bush's with his hydrogen energy bullshit or anything new from Obama, is either going to be a 5-year plan at worst or be ineffective at changing large-scale behavior patterns IF THERE IS NO ECONOMIC INCENTIVE FOR INDIVIDUALS AND INDUSTRY TO RIP OUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND REPLACE IT WITH GREEN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE BLAAAARGHAWEOPTJAWIGJ

    I'M A FUCKING LEFT WING HIPPY PINKO FAG, BUT UNLIKE EITHER REPULIKKKANS OR DEMOFAGS I REALIZE THAT FORCING PEOPLE TO SPEND A TRILLION DOLLARS A CERTAIN WAY TO MAKE SHIT AND DEVELOP FUCKING CRAP LIKE THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE A FUCKING THING IF INITIATIVES LIKE THIS ARE NOT PICKED UP BY PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND ARE PUSHED FORWARD BY MARKET FORCES.
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    sycld is right. I've said it before and I'll say it again: even though green energy is awesome and we should switch to it immediately we won't end up switching until the oil supply is on its last leg and the oil companies start developing new green technology and pushing legislation through congress so that they can still control the world's energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
    sycld is right. I've said it before and I'll say it again: even though green energy is awesome and we should switch to it immediately we won't end up switching until the oil supply is on its last leg and the oil companies start developing new green technology and pushing legislation through congress so that they can still control the world's energy.
    taxing the fuck out of oil would have the same effect, aside from the popular rebellion that would overthrow the US government.

    also, "who" to control the world's energy...?


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    the oil companies

    the next generation of energy will still be controlled by Exxon/Mobile and BP and whoever else

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    Quote Originally Posted by benzss View Post
    Sweet, history isn't unmarketable!
    History was never marketable =).

    Where are you studying benzss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysack View Post
    History was never marketable =).

    Where are you studying benzss?
    university college london

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    Hmm, for some odd reason I thought you were Australian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysack View Post
    Hmm, for some odd reason I thought you were Australian.
    ...despite the fact that he has listed "LONDON BRUV" as his location.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    ...despite the fact that he has listed "LONDON BRUV" as his location.
    This is true.

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    I don't think the Education or Nursing workforce has ever been well off. There are several schools here in Utah who use volunteer teachers who have "Life experience" to help mold the future of our nation. Worst fuckin' idea ever considering half of these volunteers are either so over the hill that their degrees were void two decades ago or so green the the ink on their high school diplomas hasn't even dried.
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    My sister has a film degree. It is funny because she went to a more prestigious(sp) university than me and she liked to remind me. Her paper though is fucking useless. She is now in a shitty job in a bank. My firsrt job, I was earning twice what she was making. Wiped the smile off her face.

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    One of my best friends has a film degree and just last week he got a job at a casting firm taking audition films and editing them.

    So, you can get a job in film with this market

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    bachelor of fine arts? marketable or no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious Intent View Post
    bachelor of fine arts? marketable or no
    Nope. Not right now at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malicious Intent View Post
    bachelor of fine arts? marketable or no
    Yes. The world always needs museum directors.

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    haha

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