What? It's a combination of all the awesome things that our last few presidents have done. I'd be the pinnacle of greatness.
What? It's a combination of all the awesome things that our last few presidents have done. I'd be the pinnacle of greatness.
Originally Posted by Toki
Assassinate myself. I'd be a horrible president
End womans suffrage!!!!
Despite being a barefooted member of the filthy left, I actually think nuclear power is pretty $ and I'm not sure why people are so terrified of it.
I mean, I played Sim City 2000 and those nuke meltdowns were not a big deal if you had enough fire departments.
I do think nuclear power is necessary, but not in place of other energy sources. We should be putting more money into energy research, into fine tuning wind and solar power to maximize efficiency and minimize environmental impact. I also think we should be using natural gas - not for personal automobiles, but for large cargo trucks and so forth.
Nuclear power is the best and most efficient power and developments have been made in the past 30 years where Uranium can be reprocessed and used again several times, making nuclear waste practically nada. Cheaper than what we have, more efficient than what we have, quit being an ignorant pussyfoot and learn your stuff before you say dumb things Icarus.
Last edited by Mr. E; 11-17-2008 at 08:19 PM.
I'll accept your argument if you expand on what improvements they've made, and also tell me how they cool the water around the reactors. I was told once it was done by coal.
I thought it was graphite.
I hear the voices inside my head. They counsel me. They understand. They talk to me.
They've figured out how to reprocess uranium to make it reusable hundreds of times before having to be disposed of, and the technology the plants used has improved to the point that one use of the uranium goes rather far, on top of the fact that it is reusable. I don't know the science behind it, I just know someone who is responsible for dealing with nuclear waste and he explained it to me. As far as dealing with the heat pollution, I'm not quite sure about that.
http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-co...s/cfr/part020/
There's the government regulation on cooling. None of the cooling emissions of nuclear plants have any radiation. The major concern is thermal emissions.
Update: here is the non-science version http://men.style.com/gq/features/lan...d=content_6424
Most of you seem to have some impressively good ideas. Surprize surprize.
Socialism is awesome.
for lazy people
Also the USA is the only industralised wealthy nation that does not provide Universal health care.
To lazy to answer these all directly. So fuck you (that's just simpler).
Someone who works for a facility. That sounds like something I could trust (seriously), because they would have a real perspective on it.
Oh look something useful.
Because the USA doesn't care about those who are sick, poor, suffer from mental illness, or have pre-existing conditions (or so it would seem).
Universal health care makes humanity weak and makes people live longer than they should. Fuck it
Universal health care will eat your family and rape your cat.
I rape my cat daily. Is this a bad thing?
I know, that's one of the reasons I'm against it
Universal health care will blow up the Golden Gate Bridge.
More like someone who runs the facility, ok?
Also, seriously, fuck the poor. Poor people are poor because nature didn't give them what they needed to not be poor. Sick people are sick because nature made them that way. People have pre-existing conditions because nature made them that way. If you're too poor to get the help that you need to fight nature, then you don't deserve to be able to fight it.
The mentally ill are the only exception to this imo, because, while nature is responsible for that too, we can't just kill them and they aren't able to help themselves.
Eh. You didn't say that before. I already agreed with the credibility, yeesh.
Your logic is flawless. /heavy sarcasm
If by nature you mean the society in which they are born, then you would be correct. But genetics has nothing to do with poverty. It's actually based on a perpetuation of socioeconomic status since those who are poor regress during summer months because they don't have proper stimulation (like a library they can visit or a museum to go to) while those who are wealthy continue to grow. And thus, it is all perpetuated.
Also, I hope you have a genetic disorder and can't afford to fix it.
We don't take care of them though. If you look into deinstiutionalization (which JFK signed in 1963 before his assassination) we were supposed to let them out into a supportive community, with community clinics, supportive family and housing. The pilot studies of this showed that it had a great effect. But the pilot studies involved people who were cared for by psychiatric nurses, visited by counselors, had jobs, and were provided meals a couple times a week.
When the deinstitutionalization actually took place, the mentally ill had no family to fall back on, and if they did get housing, they would go through medication cycles until eventually they were kicked out of their housing. What we got? the homeless mentally ill
Read through this to be less ignorant: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...67/ai_76398484
Casey you have a very weird outlook. If "nature" made them that way how is their fault? If "nature" made them that way shouldn't you superior human beings who nature have made perfect help them out?
I didn't say it was their fault, but it is their problem to deal with, since they have the mental facilities to do so. As far as superior beings, why should they help out the inferior ones? The cost-benefit analysis of helping someone who is not capable of supporting themselves, be it due to circumstances or lack of industriousness, is ludicrously one-sided. Survival of the Fittest.
qft
I love how the extreme capitalists hate on socialism because they are scared that they might lose nice things if everything is equal. Gogo materialism.
Some things are completely out of peoples control, such as those who grow our coffee and are essentially forced into economic slavery to support out habits.
Capitalism is not sustainable under the current circumstances and we will eventually kill ourselves or piss off everyone else enough to kill us first
Telling stupid people they are idiots since 1987
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I'm not a capitalist when it comes to domestic policy, I'm a naturalist. Survival of the fittest. It is the model nature means for us to live. Socialism would kill us all much more absolutely than capitalism. Any windfall from capitalism (your assumptions are terrible, btw) can be undone or dealt with. If an incurable superbug comes into existence because people who were supposed to die lived and bred making their progeny even weaker then it is game over.
*yawn*
Let me tell my story to someone for the 11 millionth time.
I was born poor. I was born in a single-parent household. I had little to no parental support. However, I was determined to become more than what society had told me I would be. I have been blessed by nature with excellent faculties, and I took advantage of them to become one of the smartest people I have ever known, and nobody helped me get to where I am.
You can blame society all you want, but at the root of everything is initiative. If you lack the initiative to strive to not be poor, then you deserve to be poor. If you have the initiative but don't have the faculties then you deserve to be poor.
And by the way, I'm in the process of becoming an actuary, and my genetics are clean (had a check done a few years ago for markers). I'm here for the long haul buddy.
Also, don't lecture me on American history. I am well aware of how mental healthcare in America fell apart, and I am supportive of reform in that area. If America wanted to socialize mental health care I'd be the first person to speak up for it, but that's where it should stop.
Last edited by Mr. E; 11-17-2008 at 10:16 PM.
What a wonderful American story. You are amazing. I am amazed. How did all of your friends from your school make out? Were you an exception? Are you special?
Also, are you familiar with the psychological process that we all fall prey to, where we attribute good things to our own doing and bad things to things outside of us? Maybe it wasn't all you.
That's unfortunate for all the people not as "perfect" as you are.
I digress.
Whoa, I just had an Atlas Shrugged flashback....and fucking hated it.
1. Ban niggers from being president.
2. Ban women from being president.
3. Legalize any and all weapons so that any average joe that wants them could buy them.
4. Legalize pot.
5. Kick out all the fucking illegal foreigners.(or declare open season on them)
6. Tell the rest of the world to go FUCK themselves.
Intense.
I'm not going to go on a mini-rant about this, but Mr. E you know where I would go with it if I did.
Other than #4, I'm stealing the rest of these ideas for my own personal platform.
I'll be pressing for mandatory five year prison sentences for marijuana possession.
youre a faggot
Yeah well, when I become dictator of these great United States I'll be a faggot that will have you imprisoned for being a pothead.
Whatcha think about that? Huh? Huh?
Exactly.
Yeah well, when I become dictator of these great United States I'll be a faggot that will have you imprisoned for being a pothead.
Whatcha think about that? Huh? Huh?
Exactly.
you afraid of pot heads?
huh? are you?
dont be a pussy
Who are you quoting? I never said I was perfect.
Most of my actual (not just acquaintances) friends (I have like, maybe 12, and only 4 or 5 from high school) aren't doing super well. From having unwanted children to being squatters to being straight up doing nothing and living with and off of their parents, they are definitely not doing super well. I try and give them moral support and advice, but some people don't learn. Some of them have gotten stuck in their situations due to circumstances beyond their control, but they've gotta do what they've gotta do.
There may have been some contributors to my success I don't know about, but I don't know who. My friends were moral support on occasion, but they certainly didn't help me learn or anything.
So if your friends didn't follow your rise, then do you think that maybe other things similar to what happened to your friends would hold back other people? Maybe even, circumstances beyond their control?
Your arrogance and ego are quite astounding.
I also find it quite ironic how you preach that those who are poor are pool at, essentially, their own fault (or at least remain so that way) but yet YOUR friends are in unfortunate situations because of circumstances beyond their control right?
While I would say that many situations are self-inflicted, it is completely ignorant and absolutely ridiculous to assume that ALL people in bad situations are their because of lack of initiative etc. You say how you were poor and still managed to change all that doesn't mean this same situation applies to everyone, you display egocentrism at its finest. You also display a nice use of the self-serving bias, everything good is due to your own good but yet bad things (such as being poor previously or your unfortunate friends) are beyond personal control.
For someone who claims themselves so intelligent your logic could use some work. While I could sit here and debate whether capitalism or socialism is better for our society (which would be a neverending debate), it is much more pertinent to tell you that it what you suggest (in terms of "survival of the fittest") is completely flawed. You cannot attribute everything to innate attributes, that is completely ignorant...anyone with even a basic introductory course in Psychology could tell you this. Nothing is ever a product of 100% environment OR genetics/biology...there is an interaction between the two. You could be the most intelligent person in the world with absolutely NO opportunity to develop this innate ability just as easily as you could be the most retarded person in the world with access to as many resources as you could imagine. Man is becoming less dependent of instincts, as we develop technology the natural world is further distanced from us...NATURAL selection occurs in the natural world, which we are distancing ourselves from at an increasing rate. Survival of the Fittest is a concept that people like to hold onto because they happen to be in a fortunate position in life and want to hold this position at all costs no matter who else suffers in the process (well they are poor people, I guess they are just weak and don't deserve to live right?).
Fuck survival of the fittest, inclusive fitness is much more reasonable.
Capitalism, at its root, is merely the wealthy trying to hold on to their wealth. Another lame version of survival of the fittest which is pretty much irrelevant in todays age
http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/aaB...nceVsFaith.png
Amen brother! I can't believe that in this day and age people still cling to that idealism, especially here in the states. We need to help our fellow man, which doesn't mean feeding them the crumbs of the rich.
I'm not from the states but sure why not
Mr. E, sorry if I came out a little rash on my earlier post, sometimes it gets the best of me.
But see the whole dilemma (on the healthcare issue) here is, essentially, this: Provide healthcare for everyone so those that truely need it and deserve it are able to get it or provide it for no one (in terms of public HC) so neither those that deserve it (but cant afford it) and those that don't do not get it.
Survival of the Fittest comes in many different forms. Though it is highly irrelevant in today's society (like Sole pointed out) it CANNOT be taken in the literal terms of "The strongest survive". Think of this as an analogy:
Humans once had to survive off of hunting/gathering. Now, not EVERYONE can have the best physical strenght just the same as not EVERYONE can have the best intelligence. You need people from the whole spectrum for the SPECIES to survive as a whole. Inclusive fitness is the idea that the species must survive as a whole, not the individual.
The idea that the capitalist paradigm thinking those that are poor deserve to die is utterly flawed. IF YOU WERE TO ELIMINATE ALL POOR PEOPLE OUR WAY OF LIVING WOULD EFFECTIVELY END.
Who makes all the clothes you wear? Most of the coffees and teas you drink etc? The capitalist way THRIVES off of the poor people who are essentially made slaves to sustain OUR way of life. Do you think people in africa/asia REALLY have a choice? Do you think they just "lack initiative" to get out of that life? What about people who are forced to mine diamonds out in Africa so we can wear fancy jewelry? I suppose they simply aren't intelligent enough to get away with their family from literal private ARMIES.
You can't just go ahead and apply the survival of the fittest rule (which is laughable at best because if you applied the rule like most of you interpret it as we would be fucked) but cherry pick it and apply it ONLY to the western society. Man should be helping man, help those less fortunate. At the cost of what? Materialistic things we DONT NEED? Luxuries are useless at the end of the day.
Fight Club, Lord of War, Blood Diamond, Zeitgeist: Addendum...all great movies that illustrate these points
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I sure do. That still doesn't mean I think they should be given something they didn't earn.
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