Thread: Successful potheads.

Originally Posted by Killuminati

Someone who smokes all day everyday and is successful has either no work to do(got rich quick?), is a superhero or doesn't exist. There are however tons of people who smoke at the end of their day when others would have a few drinks. If weed is made legal there will still be people who smoke all the time every day who are complete loser fuck ups and there there will still be people who lead successful productive lives and smoke in moderation. How hard is this for people to understand.

Nicki Swardson is successful

haha nice

Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars

The Beatles only used LSD for a few years, one never ate it/only ate once(I'm thinking Harrison but I could be wrong)

Pink Floyd swears up and down they never took drugs

Listen to their music on drugs and then come here and tell us that they didnt write that shit on drugs

Originally Posted by Mach 5

Listen to their music on drugs and then come here and tell us that they didnt write that shit on drugs

man how did you get soooo wise about music

i'm incredibly high right now... and i like to think i'm successful.

and i just realized i bumped a somewhat old thread... oops.

That would be ironic but it's not.

isn't it ironic, dontcha think?

Also, nothing in that song is actually ironic. Ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife? No, no irony there.

yes, but isn't that the irony? the fact that she's so brutally retarded?

it would be ironic that a song called "isn't it ironic" doesn't have anything ironic in it, but the fact is, several of the things she says ARE ironic

edit: although i guess the amount of dumb, unironic stuff in it does make the song ironic enough

hey i'm not here to fight. she's smoking hot and i still rock that song out with my windows down.

Originally Posted by hater

hey i'm not here to fight. she's smoking hot and i still rock that song out with my windows down.

i don't like you

Originally Posted by gwahir

i don't like you

all right. good talk.

Originally Posted by gwahir

it would be ironic that a song called "isn't it ironic" doesn't have anything ironic in it, but the fact is, several of the things she says ARE ironic

edit: although i guess the amount of dumb, unironic stuff in it does make the song ironic enough

Like? I think there's 2 at most. I still think that makes it sufficiently ironic that someone with a hit song called ironic hasn't actually grasped the concept.

edit: didn't see your edit. thx live topic

i wiki'd it and she had a pretty alright explanation for it -- it essentially is ironic (dramatically speaking) in that it's the narrator's (not alanis herself but a character) view of how the world works, like from the mindset of a frustrated nineteen year old

if that was the intention well then well done

Yes but let's face it, that wasn't the intention. She just didn't think it through. Neither did most people and that's why it sold billions. If she'd just admitted that then I'd have more respect for her but she tried to bullshit it so I don't.

i'm not in the business of seeing into people's intentions

i'd rather believe she knew what she was writing, even if that makes me naive

I think it does gwahir im afraid.

I'd rather believe she knew what she was writing but we both know the chances are she didn't.

Originally Posted by gwahir

...it's the narrator's (not alanis herself but a character) view of how the world works, like from the mindset of a frustrated nineteen year old

uhh when i read the wiki it said this:

For me the great debate on whether what I was saying in ‘Ironic’ was ironic wasn’t a traumatic debate. I’d always embraced the fact that every once in a while I’d be the malapropism queen. And when Glen and I were writing it, we definitely were not doggedly making sure that everything was technically ironic. It’s a testament to the fact that we didn’t think it was going to be put under the microscope by 30 million people. For me the sweetest moment came in New York when a woman came up to me in a record store and said, ‘So all those things in the “Ironic” aren’t ironic.’ And then she said, ‘And that’s the irony.’ I said, ‘Yup.’ To me it’s a real snapshot of a nineteen-year-old’s definition and version of how life worked at the time. All that ‘Ironic’ touches on spawned all my future inquiries into and current understandings of the mysteries of life.

which translates to (in my mind): "i was nineteen and dumb who cares lol"

but it wasn't a character that was supposed to be someone other than alanis herself from reading that imo

yeah maybe skimming that led to some incorrect assumptions on my part

Me

Originally Posted by rishard10212

Me

I doubt I'm the only one who doesn't believe you.

Originally Posted by no_brains_no_worries

Maybe he believes success is relative?

Sure, we might see him as a fry cook in a studio apartment, but with enough weed I'm sure he sees himself as a regular Rockefeller.

Any stoner with 'enough' weed sees themselves as successful.
Until it starts to run out.

this thread is like listening to my Christian grandparents debate Islam

lol

http://www.musicbyday.com/the-beatle...own-words/585/

Here are some quotes from the Beatles about how weed and LSD influenced their music and lives.

here is a quote from me on this topic

"who gives a fuck" - coqauvin

Originally Posted by coqauvin

here is a quote from me on this topic

"who gives a fuck" - coqauvin

This should be everyone's view. Unfortunately the US government(along with too many Americans) don't seem to like allowing people their constitutional rights when it isn't convenient for them.

Well grandstanding on a moral high horse is a good way to win votes, so I can't entirely blame them for that, even if I dislike the actual results. This sounds like I support what they do (I don't), but I'm pretty sure it won't change at least until a new generation of politicians takes office, and even then...

Originally Posted by coqauvin

Well grandstanding on a moral high horse is a good way to win votes, so I can't entirely blame them for that, even if I dislike the actual results. This sounds like I support what they do (I don't), but I'm pretty sure it won't change at least until a new generation of politicians takes office, and even then...

It isn't a moral high horse though, that's the fucked up part. Nearly every bit of pot propaganda has historically been a downright lie. It is hypocritical and immoral to deny people the freedom to smoke pot if they want to. Or deny them to use any substance really. Thankfully the pot movement has some serious legs at this point and I can't see it doing anything but progressing from this point on. With so many states with medical legal, many more that have bills and California pushing for legalization I don't see how we won't have federal legalization in any more than 15 years and I think that is a pretty conservative estimate if we keep moving at this pace.

It is the moral high horse. By villifying something and setting yourself up as a crusader against a perceived evil in your consituency, you can make yourself a contender. It's old hat, but plenty of politicians drum up attention or positive polling for themselves by denouncing the evils of drugs when an election is aronud the corner - it makes you seem like a stand-up member of the community, a crusader for the well-being of the neighbourhood. If the stigma surrounding pot was gone, it wouldn't matter, but enlightenment takes time.

C'mon guys, we still haven't really named any successful potheads though.

Originally Posted by simonj

C'mon guys, we still haven't really named any successful potheads though.

lol.

Well that Beatles link you posted hardly counts. It's not like they're a self-made success.

Originally Posted by simonj

Well that Beatles link you posted hardly counts. It's not like they're a self-made success.

Wait you were serious?