Quote Originally Posted by Syme View Post
You have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about. The common .223 ball ammo (M193 and M855) is particularly effective at close range, because as long as it's velocity is above ~2700 fps, it will fragment very effectively and inflict a brutal wound cavity. It's at longer range, once the velocity has dropped below ~2700 fps (which happens around 150-200 yds. from a 20" barrel, 50-100 yds. for a 14.5" M4 barrel), that the .223 round loses terminal effect and could maybe begin to be compared to a .22 LR in terms of wound cavity profile. Within effective fragmentation range, a .223 round is not only vastly more effective than a .22 LR round, it's more effective than most ball/FMJ .30-caliber rifle rounds (because most of them don't fragment effectively).

Please don't try to give firearms advice if you have no idea what you're talking about. There is absolutely nothing about the .223 round or the AR-15 that causes poor terminal performance within 25 feet or whatever. You just completely made that up.
I'll choose the bigger hole puncher over something that is suppose to tumble or fragment, thank you very much. The performance of such ammunition will vary greatly by barrel length twist rate and other factors. I will also choose something that is specifically designed to expand while staying together (core lock style hollow points) spreading the energy of the projectile over an even wider area while retaining mass inflicting more injury. Generally keeping all the mass together by controlling fragmentation and spreading it over a wide area is the focus of defensive ammunition. If you want to leave someone full of pieces of material why not just use a shotgun?

If dogs are allowed then that might make a decent alarm system, but dogs are unpredictable in a sense of whether or not they will defend you.