Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
I agree with pretty much everything in this post. The point I and several others have been trying to make is that torture has limited positive consquences because of the unreliable nature of information gathered therefrom. But of course, the point bacon ops is trying to make is (apparently -- correct me if I'm wrong) that torture works.

Naturally no point is going to be effectively made until someone pulls out some trustworthy data, but trustworthy data on the efficacy of information gained through tortue is going to be hard to find.

Also, bacon ops is a repetitive hick.
What I meant was that I agree with what Shrike said.
A wrong is a wrong is a wrong, unless it is justified.
Torturing someone for fun is awful, obviously, but if 1,000 lives could be saved by torturing one man, I'd be for it. Of course, Qwahir's American counterparts bitch and moan about it, but flew flags outside of their houses after 9/11 and supported invading all kinds of countries.

I'm not a hick, Gwahir; you just happen to disagree with my opinions.

You, however are an arrogant sheep.

Anyhow, that's quite enough for one thread.