Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
And then there is still the retard argument. Some people will never be capable of preference satisfaction, are they disposable?
what you seem to be missing (inexplicably, because i've repeated it several times) is that i'm arguing that it's qualities extrinsic to the child itself that make killing it not a good thing. i'm not arguing that killing babies is okay.

intrinsic qualities are insufficient reason that killing babies is bad. i'm saying: if intrinsic qualities were all that mattered, it would either be okay to kill babies, or not okay to kill babies, and also not okay to kill cows and dolphins and so on.

(edit: forgot to mention that this obviously applies to 'retards' as well)