I hope this is an appropriate first post.

**captain castle** · 10-25-2009, 06:06 AM

That really wasn't what I was asking, but ok

**Atmosfear** · 10-25-2009, 09:33 AM

mr die please explain the prisoner's dilemma in the context of nuclear disarmament

**Atmosfear** · 10-25-2009, 09:52 AM

oh wait that's what you just described except that you seem to think in the real world we (or anyone else) should/would ignore the incentive not to disarm

**Husein** · 10-25-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

oh wait that's what you just described except that you seem to think in the real world we (or anyone else) should/would ignore the incentive not to disarm

Give me a reason why the DPRK should not have a nuclear program to defend its sovereignty.

**Atmosfear** · 10-26-2009, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by Husein

Give me a reason why the DPRK should not have a nuclear program to defend its sovereignty.

I see a million reasons they would want one.

And a million reasons why we would like to prevent them from having it.

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT A PRISONER'S DILEMMA IS?

**Husein** · 10-26-2009, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

I see a million reasons they would want one.

And a million reasons why we would like to prevent them from having it.

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT A PRISONER'S DILEMMA IS?

Yes, but I don't see why this is relevant. I'm not a liberal, I don't care about US interests. I support the DPRK's government and its attempts to gain nuclear power to defend itself. If I was all "WAH WAH WHY DUN WE ALLOW TEH AMERICANS TO LET THE DEE PEE ARR KAY TO PURSUE NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY" then you'd have a point.

We have already established what cost-benefit analysis is.

**jack burden** · 10-26-2009, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Husein

Give me a reason why the DPRK should not have a nuclear program to defend its sovereignty.

Since when is geopolitics based on fairness? It can defend its sovereignty without nukes.

**Husein** · 10-26-2009, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by jack burden

It can defend its sovereignty without nukes.

Good point, it has a huge, economically taxing army that it has to maintain because nuclear deterrence is unavailable as an option.

**jack burden** · 10-26-2009, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Husein

Good point, it has a huge, economically taxing army that it has to maintain because nuclear deterrence is unavailable as an option.

It is also a totalitarian state, which is a huge benefit for any nation planning on fighting a war.

**Hippocrass** · 10-27-2009, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Husein

Good point, it has a huge, economically taxing army that it has to maintain because nuclear deterrence is unavailable as an option.

Because everyone is just dying to invade North Korea. That army is more to keep the people from leaving the workers paradise in droves than to deter an invasion.

**Vengeful Scars** · 10-25-2009, 04:01 PM

tell me one person who doesn't like imperialism who isn't a pinko commie fag

**TheOriginalGrumpySpy** · 10-25-2009, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Vader

out of curioisty, how many social based doctorates/degrees do you have that make you authorised to say you are more intelligent then 99.99999% of the worlds social scientists?
30 degrees? 40? By god with all the doctorates you must have you should be making hundreds of millions of dollars per year.

Originally Posted by Darth Vader

I, as a 17 year old, seem to have more wisdom then anyone in the Goddamn country that identifies themselves as either Republican or Democrat. The United States is a great country.

**TheOriginalGrumpySpy** · 10-25-2009, 08:25 PM

**Darth Vader** · 10-25-2009, 08:40 PM

ah. point taken.

**sycld** · 10-25-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Darth Vader

ah. point taken.

if the point were really taken you'd stop being stupid on the 'nets and ugly irl

JUST A THOUGHT

**captain castle** · 10-26-2009, 12:29 AM

**captain castle** · 10-26-2009, 02:39 AM

I learned about the prisoners dilemma from Dilbert the cartoon

**sycld** · 10-26-2009, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by captain castle

I learned about the prisoners dilemma from Dilbert the cartoon

i learned about it from this guy who made a presentation at this math(*sigh*) summer camp i went to. he used two audience participants ("coincidentally" always female), and if i recall the ultimate punishment if one betrayed and the other cooperated was to have the punished participant bound in ropes.

so yeah they had this pervert with a bdsm fetish tie up young teenage girls in order to demonstrate the prisoner's dilemma.

**TheOriginalGrumpySpy** · 10-26-2009, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by sycld

i learned about it from this guy who made a presentation at this math(*sigh*) summer camp i went to. he used two audience participants ("coincidentally" always female), and if i recall the ultimate punishment if one betrayed and the other cooperated was to have the punished participant bound in ropes.

so yeah they had this pervert with a bdsm fetish tie up young teenage girls in order to demonstrate the prisoner's dilemma.

I learned from Nash himself.

**sycld** · 10-26-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

I learned from Nash himself.

i.e. "i learned from watching A Beautiful Mind."

**Atmosfear** · 10-26-2009, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by sycld

i learned about it from this guy who made a presentation at this math(*sigh*) summer camp i went to. he used two audience participants ("coincidentally" always female), and if i recall the ultimate punishment if one betrayed and the other cooperated was to have the punished participant bound in ropes.

so yeah they had this pervert with a bdsm fetish tie up young teenage girls in order to demonstrate the prisoner's dilemma.

Uh that's not the prisoner's dilemma, that's the perverse dilemma

**captain castle** · 10-26-2009, 07:15 AM

We've established what your face-benefit analysis is

I got this guys

**ShitFace** · 10-26-2009, 09:39 AM

you're

**Atmosfear** · 10-26-2009, 09:54 PM

corollary one of the perverse dilemma:

do i come in her or on her?

**Vengeful Scars** · 10-27-2009, 01:17 AM

Double Penetrating Racial Kikes

**TheDudeFish** · 10-27-2009, 04:08 PM

is it teim to kill sum commie sons'a'bitches yet?

**no_brains_no_worries** · 10-28-2009, 12:51 AM

Words that make me laugh:

Boobies.
Bergina.
Rape.
Poppin fresh.
Discharge.
Spooge.

**captain castle** · 10-28-2009, 01:15 AM

Posters who annoyed me in the last four seconds:

This guy ^

**coqauvin** · 10-28-2009, 10:10 AM

are you fucking korean or something shut the hell up

**Hippocrass** · 10-29-2009, 04:20 AM

mr die shut the fuck up

**captain castle** · 10-29-2009, 07:26 AM

/thread

**Husein** · 10-29-2009, 07:42 AM

Well at least Hippocrass subtly conceded defeat.

Edit: Hoxha described Kim Il Sung as a "vacillating revisionist megalomaniac." Just thought you'd all find that interesting.

**captain castle** · 10-30-2009, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Husein

Well at least Hippocrass subtly conceded defeat.

Edit: Hoxha described Kim Il Sung as a "vacillating revisionist megalomaniac." Just thought you'd all find that interesting.

WHY WOULD YOU POSSIBLY THINK THAT

**coqauvin** · 10-29-2009, 10:48 AM

mrdie what is wrong with you

**Husein** · 10-30-2009, 01:02 PM

You think that me simply posting is enough to make me "annoying," so yeah.

Care to list any actual "annoying" activities of mine?

**Husein** · 10-31-2009, 01:15 AM

constant wall of texts

What you saw above is a wall of text. What I have written is not. Two/Three paragraphs does not make a wall of text. You have written far, far larger topics and posts than I have ever written.

single minded adherence

What? You mean having an ideology?

every post is about socialism

Because I post in political threads. Also my Space Station 13 topic in the games forum refutes such a statement.

sucking enver hoxha's dick

Thinking that Hoxha was a good leader and genuine Marxist = "sucking enver hoxha's dick," then?

deliberate disregard or retarded ignorance for why people react to you negatively

They react to me negatively mostly based on my LWS posts. Also, because of my Communism.

never shutting up

So I cannot post in threads?

**coqauvin** · 10-30-2009, 11:08 AM

mrdie i have yet to find anything you say interesting because the remotest amount of interest contained within what you share is drowned out by how fucking annoying you are

**coqauvin** · 10-30-2009, 02:35 PM