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Flawless logic.
yeah atmoscheer is suspicious and i don't know why but i feel uneasy about coq
Try to avoid behaving too much like sycld Zuelan, he also pretended not to care if he was lynched. Not to mention how uneasy the sight of coqs made him. But seriously until or unless you get killed, you should post as often as possible because the sight of your asian cum guzzler avatar always brings back fond memories of the old LWS.
zuelan I am going to be honest I never imagined you as the 'busy irl' type I always just figured you were chill
I feel the best strategy would be to continue to flush people I have prejudices against
Atmoscheer I am generally an atmosfear fan I mean white southern usually right etc
coqauvin a french
infernus nope
KT. obvious reasons
MrShrike talks too much
sailor jack ded
simonj donut car
ShitFace same
Snead who
sponge it's me
sycld lynched for being a fgt
Think talks too much
WellAdjusted I mean I did not pay attention to him until now but he seems pretty retarded and retards annoy me
zuelan chill
ok given that I am actually only on good terms with like 3 of those names they are probably the shits (obviously I am not a shit because if I were I'd be busy conniving or plotting or pooping or whatever shits do instead of doing all those things publicly)
Ok I'll start.
/lynch Think
Reason: think and sailor jack are supposedly traveling together but sailor jack was the only one to post and the first to die. Since think and sj are together so much, it would be difficult for think to ignore the thread without seeming suspicious to sj, who he would know isn't a shit. Now sj is dead and we lack that perspective.
I'm reaching and I'm not willing to defend this extensively, but Think was very active last time and asked us to delay the game to include him, so this behavior seems out of the ordinary.
I'm suspicious of silent people at this point.
Think hasn't said a word, KT.'s been pretty quiet and Snead hasn't said anything all game. I'm more suspicious of silent people at this point because the game is currently at 9 town to 3 mafia. If we lynch a townie and another is shot tonight, that's 7/3 which makes things pretty difficult for the town. If I were mafia, I'd be laying low and keeping quiet to avoid suspicion, watch a townie brit get lynched flushed then drop another at night.
For the Record:
Think - said nothing all game
Snead - said nothing all game
KT. - one bangwagon (typo, but i'm leaving it) post and nothing else all game.
As Atmosfear pointed out, Think's usually verbose, but he's completely absent. The rest of it is a huge reach and I don't really buy it, tbh. KT. didn't really say much last game, so maybe it's not a point against her. I have no idea who snead is or what he's like, but he hasn't said anything and passive mafias could be rewarded at this point in the game.
tl;dr: quiet ones are suspect
Hi this is the first time I've come online since getting back.
/lynch coqauvin because I don't see anyone more worth killing right now
(killing coqauvin is my default state)
/lynch think
That was not convincing enough, Think.
I'm assuming the sherrifs actions yielded results as a non-shit or else he might have spoken up. But if you do find the mafia let us know and the nurse could silently save you.
current votes
Code:votes against voted to flush
Atmoscheer 0 Think
coqauvin 1
infernus 0
KT. 0
MrShrike 0
simonj 1 Think
ShitFace 0
Snead 0
sponge 0
Think 2 coqauvin
WellAdjusted 0 simonj
zuelan 0
Well to be honest there hasn't been much to say so far. Honestly, though, I think your actions are much more suspicious. You tell us who we should be suspicious of without directly accusing anyone. Reminds me of a certain someone from another town I used to live in.
Not an *entirely* stupid idea, but 2 things to think about.
1) The nurse will probably have to make a choice between protecting the Sherriff and protecting themselves at some point, especially once it gets towards the end-game. So even with some protection, it's probably going to end up being a suicidal move sooner or later. Might be worth it though if it wins you the game.
2) "I'm Spartacus". Anyone can say they are the Sheriff because that will gain them some protection from the Nurse. That also includes the Mafia, although they risk instant exposure if you do lynch whoever they point the finger at.
Oh, used to playing it the other way
I just re-read your post and yeah, you're right. Actually there was lots of that in the last game. srry bbz
lynch coqauvin
Remind me to explain the game theory of nursing the sheriff after this game because mrshrike is dumb. Not giving free tips during game just in case the sheriff does turn up a mafia.
Update: nevermind I'd rather discuss it with someone intelligent because I'm not positive that it's as simple as it looks.
In otherwords, you thought you were right, but actually you're wrong.
Colour me surprised.
No I'm 100% right but I'm not willing to discuss game impact in the midst of a game, especially when it provides a free guide to the mafia on how to lynch a declared sheriff.
i'm actually over at my dad's place, and he said the internet went down around a month ago, so i pretty much gave up on the hope of being able to post
turns out some useless cunt from the phone company misplaced some cables, but i'm good now. i'll edit the former post
now, having said that, coq points out that both kt and think have not been posting too much lately and says they're suspicious because of this, and then both of them just pretty much type "/lynch coq"
if both of them turn out to be mafia i wouldn't be surprised if coq turns out to be the last mafia member
Uh we have a little over 24 hours to lynch someone.
Start voting so we can at least start discussing.
What are you talking about, I accused 3 people without actually casting a vote and gave my reasoning behind why I thought they were suspect. I don't believe I pegged all three mafia, but I'm pretty sure that at least one on the list is. Laying low and dodging attention is more suspect than actively engaging in the game and is a common mafia tactic. I'm more convinced you and/or think aren't town because your response to my post was to immediately start bandwagoning against me, with an ignorable delay between identical votes.
I'm not sure which of you three are the mafia, but I'm at least 80% certain one of you is. Considering think hasn't tried to defend himself (is he just playing it cool? sidestepping negative attention in an attempt to discredit it?) I'm going to vote for him. Still not convinced that KT. is benign.
edit: /vote think
Fuck my boss just saw that scat.
"That looks just like my last business trip" he said.
*edit*
Atmosfear, my logic says educating everyone tends to tilt the favour towards the town, because if we assume everyone has or gains perfect understanding of the game, the odds are significantly in favour of the town (who already have a 60% chance of winning just based on random chance right now if my sums are correct).
Zuelan, I don't know about the "all 3" hypothesis, but there's a chance that it could be 1, 2 or 3 of them. The raw probability says only 1 of them, which means 66% chance of guessing wrong, but I think further behaviour will improve those odds come next round. Meanwhile, there is another group pattern between 2 other people (they will probably know who they are once I vote) which gives a 50% of getting it right if I choose 1 of them.
/flush simonj
Oh, I see. Because I stated that I had no idea who the mafia could be at that point in the game (nobody else had any ideas either) I must be mafia?
Well it's convenient that you made a post about the important of educating everyone (as though the town is somehow going to benefit from me posting a red herring Atmosfear's Guide to Killing a Declared Sheriff When the Nurse is Alive.) Not to mention your "sums" are fucking retarded because you clearly don't grasp the concept of multiplying probabilities, which NEVER get better than .500 since the game, by definition, ends when the mafia because equal to or greater than 50% of the living population. Assuming we wait until the absolute last possible second to lynch the correct mafia, so that all of our kills occur at max probability, the purely random odds of killing all the mafia are 3/7 = .42, 2/5 = .4, 1/3 = .33. Multiply them for the odds of all three occurring (randomly) and you'll find a 5% chance of the town guessing randomly who the mafia are.
Assumptions
Of course, this is a meaningless number because it's not random, which is the whole point. The town needs to gain information, and therefore needs to lynch before the optimal random odds. Which was the whole reason you were a fucking idiot in the sign-up thread.
There's also a chance that it could be none of them, shitfuck. The "raw probability" suggests 25% of them are mafia.
Don't think that I didn't notice your half-veiled accusation and bullshit logic to support the town sharing all of its knowledge and me telling the mafia how to play, and then watch you turn around and make up some numbers to lynch simonj.
/unlynch Think the absentee player (who might still be a mafia)
/lynch MrShrike
The following reasons:
1. MrShrike tried to get me to give the mafia a guide on how to play, after he suggested the Sheriff declare himself (in round 2 r u fkn srs?) so the nurse would have to save him.
2. MrShrike claimed that everyone should make all information public (which I generally agree with), and then turned around and made a vote based on a "50/50 shot of one of you being mafia" without ever revealing who the pair was.
3. For that matter, MrShrike didn't offer any evidence to support killing simonj, much less his 50/50 partner in crime.
4. MrShrike is an idiot and I don't like him and while I tried to play the game with him, it's intolerable. Much like killing sycld, even if we're wrong, I think we've done ourselves a favor. He's not sharing any meaningful information with us anyways.
(Atmosfear, making England a better place for Brits and Shits to live in tenuous harmony)
Would you like to quote exactly where I was the one that suggested that the Sheriff should reveal himself? I think you'll find that was Infernus, genius. Casual Discourse - View Single Post - [Mafia 2] Brit or Shit
I said it was an idea that had a certain merit and disadvantages at certain points in the game, but I certainly didn't suggest it was a good idea for the 2nd round. Casual Discourse - View Single Post - [Mafia 2] Brit or Shit
Nor did I request your advice, you conveniently interjected yourself into the conversation to muddy the waters about what the Sheriff should do to keep safe, then you clammed up saying you didn't want to give anything away. Casual Discourse - View Single Post - [Mafia 2] Brit or Shit
Yet you now claim that you agree with me (conveniently again, given that I'm right), that everyone in the town knowing what strategies will or won't work, is in our favour. (see last Atmosfear post).
Either you are stupid, or you are lying. And I don't believe you're stupid Atmosfear.
So, is there a particular reason why you are making bald faced lies about what I have or haven't said?
Or why you are contradicting yourself, claiming that it's good for the town if everyone knows all the worthwhile strategies, but meanwhile actually making it less clear by rubbishing what I made clear without actually explaining any alternative?
I have a lot more to say about the rest of your bullshit Atmosfear, but I think we should all go back and read the actual thread, and then think about exactly why you have just made at least 3 straight out lies in your latest post.
I'm only 50/50 sure that simonj is a mafia (and that's based on circumstantial evidence), but I'm pretty fucking sure you are Atmosfear. There's no reason why you would lie so many times, unless you were desperate to create confusion and were counting on people being prepared to take anything you say at face value. That's also why you want to get rid of me, because I question what you say. Most mafia would just ignore it, but your ego is too big to let it go.
/lynch Atmosfear
Well It's clear that I attributed infernus' idea to you by mistake (playing forum games on a phone over the course of a week clause), but nursing the sheriff creates a Wine In Front of Me situation with unequal outcomes and therefore mathematically determinable dominant strategies. Forgive me for realizing this and declining to provide a DOMINANT STRATEGY to the mafia.
Everyone in the town knowing the best ways for mafia to play doesn't benefit the town, it benefits the mafia. Do you tell your opponent his best move in chess? Not if you want to win.
Which is my point--I've declined to discuss strategy during the game except where it pertained to identifying mafia. Every time I've made an accusation or vote, I've provided a degree of confidence as well as a rationale. I haven't obscured any of my suspicions because I have a risk of dying each night. You provided no reasoning for your vote, you've hidden the second partner in the pair, and you're acting like you have no risk of dying.
Risk of dying is exactly why I didn't identify the other person I suspect other than simonj.
If I guess wrong, I'm not protected by the bandwagon vote like I am voting for simonj and being the lone voice that says they suspect someone (who IS actually mafia) before there is any opportunity to lynch them only serves to paint a great big fucking bullseye on my ass.
But I'm pretty damn sure you know this perfectly well already.
By trying to force me to reveal it now, you will gain more knowledge about whether I suspect one of the other mafia (and give them an excuse to vote for me), or will turn someone innocently accused against me in the vote. There is no profit in me doing what you want, except for the mafia.
Also, you just lied again when you tried to explain away your first lie.
You know that if the towns people and the mafia BOTH know the dominant strategies and what is going on, the townspeople will be benefitted more. You basically said as much yourself because you you agreed with me when I said that. Now you're saying you didn't want to discuss it because it would give a strategy away only to the mafia, which is again blatantly untrue given that all of us can read.
He said that information sharing is generally good, and he pointed out that sure we'd all have the information on the strategy, but, and here's the crucial difference: the shits could implement it without our knowledge of it necessarily helping us.
To put it another way: say the USA are the only country who know how to make a nuke. You're suggesting telling the soviets how to make a nuke so weapons inspectors in their country can theoretically know what nuke-making looks like and suss them out.
tl;dr you are an idiot please stop talking it's not helping anyone especially you
Um if you have sound reasoning for someone being mafia, them you need to identify the person and the explanation. That way, even if you die, the remaining town can use it. Accusing a mafia ALWAYS bears risk of being targetted. A townie doesn't care if he dies as long as he helps the town win, which is why townies don't lie about being the nurse or sheriff before they die.
There's just so many gaps in your logic it's astounding, not the least of which being that you're wrong thinking that I'm a mafia. I invite the sheriff to investigate me (obviously don't reveal the results until it's necessary, since you'll become a target.)
I'm going to post your PM (I'd screenshot but I don't think I can do that from a phone.) I havent seen it, but if you have any explanations to make, might want to start now.
I'd also like to point out that it's possible we are both wrong. About eachother. I'd still prefer you died in lieu of a nonlynch because I don't like playing with you.
MrShrike seems to think that if he dies he has lost, even if the town wins. This is only true if he is mafia or an idiot.
Also, mrshrike isn't grasping the difference between knowledge of strategies and knowledge of observed behavior. The strategy is to reveal suspicions and reasoning behind votes to the town so that it is conserved if you die. The information is the observations/theories that supposedly provide a 100% chance that either simonj or a mystery accomplice are mafia. Of course, the odds are always 50/50 if you never reveal the other party.
Here's the PM mrshrike sent me:
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrShrike
Think, given that Atmosfear's change of vote now puts you in the clear, I'm not surprised you are backing him up.
But go and read the actual strategy that was being discussed and follow the conversation. All the things I suggested benefited the town to know. Atmosfear immediately waded in to confuse the issue by declaring I was wrong, even though he knows that isn't true. Then he supposedly changed his mind about telling us why I was wrong.
Also your analogy is wrong. Atmosfear is fudging his agreement by saying generally and information instead of always and strategy. But he knows it's true.
Ask Atmosfear if it's better for everyone to knows all the strategies the mafia can use, given that they need to know in order to identify when it's being used, or to just hope that the mafia don't know or work them out for themselves and leave most of the townpeople in the dark.
Guys what if mrshrike, atmosfear and myself are all the mafia? That would make about as much sense as what we've had so far.
The only reasoning I can base my suspicion off is:
a) Observed behaviour - information which is available to anyone to 2 eyes
b) Possible strategies, which you now seem to think we shouldn't share. Or you do. Or you don't.
The chances of me dying with information that no-one else has is very small and my risk of being lynched or murdered is also small - IF I don't point the finger unnnessarily. We can still win if I get lynched or murdered no problem. But why should I invite it for your benefit, especially given that I'm still fairly convinced you are mafia.
Why would you blatantly lie? Tired?
And the only real reason to jump all over me so suddenly would seem to be to protect someone who is imminently about to be lynched.
Anyway, it's 2AM here, so I'm going to bed and we'll see whatever happens very soon. At this point, looks like Coq is going to get lynched unless it changes.
I wasn't imminently about to be lynched, Think was (thus I didn't need protecting).
As it stands now it's 2 for Think, 2 for coq, 1 for Atmosfear, MrShrike & myself respectively. If a draw results in a non lynching then either more people need to vote or someone needs to switch their vote so we have a majority.
I'd rather not because I don't find coq all that suspicious.
HOW THE FUCK DOES THE TOWN BENEFIT FROM KNOWING WHO THE MAFIA SHOULD LYNCH IF THE SHERIFF DECLARED AND THE NURSE IS ALIVE, HE ROARED IN A FIT OF RAGE AT THE AUTISTIC MOUTH-BREATHING CHILD.
Lynch, kill, whatever it is when you die at night.
And shrike has made an accusation against this mystery pair (one of whom is simonj) without any explanation of who the pair is and what behavior of their indicates that one of them is a mafia.
current votes
As stated in the OP, in the case of a draw one of them will die. If these votes stand for the next hour and a half, I will do it like this:Code:votes against voted to flush
Atmoscheer 1 MrShrike
coqauvin 2 Think
infernus 0
KT. 0 coqauvin
MrShrike 1 Atmoscheer
simonj 1 Think
ShitFace 0
Snead 0
sponge 0
Think 2 coqauvin
WellAdjusted 0 simonj
zuelan 0
"If this post number is odd, coqauvin will die. If even, Think will die."
By post number I don't mean the # at the top right, but the bigger number that appears when you hover over the #. For example, this post is 193529.
Oh we don't need a majority to lynch good talk see you out there
Day 2 ends.
If this post number is odd, coqauvin will die. If even, Think will die.
193534 so Think is dead.
(bye Think)
With his last breath, Think gulped, "tea up!" True to his word, what came back up was tea, not shit. He was the Brit James Henry Thomas.
http://img.wellimean.com/ss/cd/2634775.jpg
Night 2 begins.
Why did day 2 end 7 hours early?
Brit or Shit Time
More like fuck you mutton time
whoa
woops, sorry I didn't see that it had ended until after I posted it
Night 2 ends.
One player was swarmed by the Shits, but the Purifier anticipated this move and saved the soon-to-be victim.
Day 3 begins now and ends on Tuesday, August 24 at 11 PM BST.
Mutton what time does the day end in EST for the love of fucking christ. You might as well say Day 3 ends once the unicorn cries 12 tears.
Yeah because time zones are so difficult to look up.
Reporting in local time is even easier
/flush coqauvin
I'm not going to immediately vote to flush him, but after Think turned out to be a Brit I'm pretty suspicious of coqauvin. I'd like to hear his defence first.
I too would like to hear Coqauvin.
But if MrShrike carries on accusing me without telling me why or without explaining this mysterious partnership I have with someone secret I'm going to vote to flush him.
I don't think MrShrike is a mafia, but I do think he's a blathering idiot.
oh yeah i forgot to mention my vote is not final, other than just being suspicious i don't have anything solid againts coq
not to mention there's plenty of people that are either laying low or are actually being unusually quiet
Mutton that is ridiculous.
Why don't you tell us who the shits tried to kill last night?
In any other game of mafia that information would be revealed.
Well that's not true either. I've never seen a blocked action revealed.
How many people are left? We have 11 total, 3 mafia remaining, right?
Assuming there is a kill today and a kill tonight, the cop needs to declare himself tomorrow and the doctor should protect him. This turns the odds on the mafia, who now need to scramble to find the doctor.
Sorry for being so late, I've had a busy last couple of days.
Ok, my train of reasoning ran like this. Chances were some of the mafia are going to lay low and stay quiet for as much of the game as they could. Since we're hitting the midgame at about this point, it was pretty reasonable to assume that by Day 2 there would still be at least 1 mafia who wouldn't say anything in an attempt to avoid the shit flinging during the day and getting a kill by night.
I listed three people (KT., Think [RIP :(] and Snead) who hadn't said much or really contributed to the game at all. I figured if they were town, they would object to my suspicions and lay their own out, or in some way begin an actual game conversation. Instead, KT. called me mafia and voted to lynch me, with reasoning, and think voted to lynch me without reasoning. Fuck, the only thing Think said was:
He didn't even try to defend himself, which, in retrospect, is, I suppose, a sign of innocence(?) I'm still convinced that either KT. or Snead is a Shit. Snead still hasn't said anything to defend himself or accuse anyone, and he hasn't given any message at all that he's not in the game. I find this incredibly suspect. Anne Hathaway, while having the mafiadar of a rock, at least has some reasoning behind what she's doing.
I wish that we had majority voting in this game, because right now voting records are pretty useless in terms of figuring things out.
guys, I'm gonna /flush Snead until another, more obvious choice comes to light.
Well, if we've learnt one thing, Think is terrible at this game.
Profiling time:
Atmoscheer - definitely town. I can't see the nurse protecting mafia who the rest of the mafia votes to kill.
coqauvin - town. I admit my voting record is terrible, but not much worse than anyone else.
infernus - probably town? He was active on day 1, but hasn't been involved since. still unsure
KT. - could be mafia. voted for me with flimsy reasoning, although in her favour, she teamed up with a town on it. i'm significantly less certain of her guilt today than I was day 2
MrShrike - suspicious. He was asking for pro-mafia tactics to be revealed at a sketchy time and kept insisting on them in spite of having a penny on the track of his train of logic. Also he's as confident about his opinions as atmosfear, but without the proof of innoncence or actual intelligence to back it up. At least he's active?
sailor jack - in davy jones' locker.
simonj - probably town. I've seen nothing to trigger my mafia dar. Active all the time, good voting record.
ShitFace - maybe town, but still silent. The only time he's spoken is when the whole 'Shitface is a Shit look at his name' movement on the first day.
Snead - hasn't said a word, not even one to say he isn't/doesn't want to play. suspicious as fuck.
sponge - personally i think he is probably town but you never know
sycld - died of AIDS
Think - dead. Suspicious to me, but that might have been knee-jerk reaction to almost getting lynched. It's not that I mind being lynched, but if I think the Mafia manages to pull off a lynch on a townie without any town support, something is horribly wrong.
WellAdjusted - totally town. Someone this bad at the game would've slipped up as mafia by now.
zuelan - probably town? My voting record isn't particularly great, but I'm still trying to figure out who is mafia. Generally seems to be on the ball, but I can't dedicate myself just yet.
guys, that's all I have on this game. If I get some time in the next couple days, I'll create a voting chart for more info on everyone's actions. I don't know what else to share with you.
edit what a scummy list
I would be ok with lynching Snead. It really wouldn't surprise me if he were mafia and the other two mafia have been handling everything with 2-0 majority.
I don't know of any non-mod (or mod) way of seeing the last time a user was active, but I can see from searching that Snead's last post was the sign-up thread. To me, that doesn't indicate especially that he's mafia. It's fucking annoying that he signs up and doesn't play, though.
I wouldn't say I'm bad.. just not uber good
that being said I do not have a vote yet
Rocket science it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.casualdiscourse.com/forums/member.php?u=66
Of course that may not mean anything, but is definitely suggestive.
I have other suspicions, some of which I have already outlined, others I haven't just yet.
I'm less sure now than I was day ago that Atmosfear and Simonj are in cahoots (although then why the big drama llama and bullshit??) but that's something else I will need to consider.
Seeing as we have some time yet and I'm busy at work, I'm going to think on it a little bit further before I put forward my vote and rationalisations. Coq as far as I'm concerned I've explained my reasoning a number of times and I don't think it needs anything further. Your own position is not exactly beyond suspicion, although I'm not accusing you of anything at this point.
wtf? That's exactly what I did. I objected to your suspicions and I laid out my own suspicions.
And the reason I haven't said much is because there isn't much to say. Day one was a waste and pretty much the major threads of conversation so far are why it is or is not a good idea to give pro-mafia tips on how to play the game during a game or something completely off topic.
And what is this "voting record" of which you speak? Not counting when sycld basically committed suicide, we've only voted once and I don't think you can deduce much from just one vote.
snead seems like a valid choice aswell, perhaps the lack of solid suspicion comes from the lack of information (silent players) but i'm not entirely convinced just yet, since it could also be because theres really not much to talk about. so yes i'm not entirely convinced just yet
while Think getting lynched might have something to do with it, i'm willing to accept it wasn't intentional, i had limited internet access (and suck at this game) and couldn't make an educated guess myself.
then there's the whole healer request thing
i don't know if that affected your profiling at all, btw, and yes, i realize i too, supported the idea of having a healer, but if i had any interest in making a cover work i wouldn't want anyone to take a second glance at this comment.
i'd really like to hear infernus oppinion at this point, he has also been quiet.
Coq when you post a voting chart, make sure you include vote switches.
I'm hiding in the shadows
Day 1
Atmoscheer - sycld bandwagon
coqauvin -mutton, clearly serious / sycld bandwagon
infernus - sycld bandwagon
KT. -sycld bandwagon
MrShrike
sailor jack -sycld, drunk as fuck
simonj -Shitface, not serious / -mr shrike after shrike's reasoning about sycld / simonj
ShitFace - sycld bandwagon
Snead
sponge -sycld "darkie faggot, lynching last time good move"
sycld
Think
WellAdjusted -Zuelan "no reason to first votes" / sycld bandwagon
zuelan -sycld, who said he was a shit
after this, sailor jack and sycld are removed from the list.
I'm too busy to finish day two right now, but i'll have it up before the end of the night
its not so much bandwagoning as it is revenge tbh
/lynch snead
Although every time MrShrike posts he appears more and more suspicious, instead of just appearing retarded.
Day 2
Code:Atmoscheer - Think / MrShrike
coqauvin -Think
infernus -
KT. -coqauvin
MrShrike -simonj / Atmoscheer
simonj -coqauvin, maybe joking / Think
ShitFace -
Snead
sponge -
WellAdjusted -simonj
zuelan -
thanks atmosfear
also, in regards to:
I don't think that silence is completely indicative of guilt, but I don't have anything else to go on. I'm still reasonably sure that some mafioso is gonna be trying to lay low. At this point, if Snead was actually playing, he definitely would've spoken up to defend himself by now. The only others that would fit this profile (and the more I dwell on it, the flimsier it gets, tbh) are infernus and shitface, because they haven't participated since the beginning of day 1 and haven't really tried to contribute anything since then. That being said, this is only through the lens of 'silence implies guilt' which isn't absolute.Quote:
Originally Posted by atmosfear
The only other lead I think we have is mrshrike, but that's either guilt or just ignorance and I can't tell with him.
It's true, that would make a good cover. But the only thing that makes me suspect infernus at this point is his lack of participation, because I don't have anything else to go on.
I'll be randomly getting back to various points in the thread because I'm a little tipsy today
If theres one person I'd say isnt it would be atmos. hes almost too good as a cit. If someone was acting very in between to me it would be Coq he seems sort of neutral but this is just from memory and not from going back and revising this thread which I might do later. So for now im abstaining from voting
current votes
11 PM BST = 6 PM Eastern = 3 PM PacificCode:votes against voted to flush
Atmoscheer 0
coqauvin 1 Snead
infernus 0
KT. 0
MrShrike 0
simonj 0 Snead
ShitFace 0
Snead 2
sponge 0
WellAdjusted 0
zuelan 0 coqauvin
but he isn't. revealing such information would potentially get him or atmosfear killed on the next night, and coq is not dumb. he just made an educated guess (one i would agree with), or hes just bluffing his way out of suspicion (a potential dumb move aswell)
i'll go with educated guess.
Shit, well I hadn't considered that, but yeah he could be the nurse as well.
Either he is
A) mafia and just fucked up
B) nurse and just fucked up
C) drunk and just fucked up (very unlikely)
I don't think there's any way of settling it for sure. If he is mafia, the real nurse standing up is NOT a good move by the way.
I have to go to a dinner party, so I'm just going to go with the balance of votes so far and vote to /flush Coqauvin I might be finished in time before it becomes nighttime and see if Coq has any sort of plausible explanation and what else develops, but any explanation would need to be a bloody good one.
also remember that coqauvin modded the last mafia game, his chances of fucking up as a nurse are pretty low
i won't change my vote just yet. he's fairly capable and i'd hate to see him lynched if hes a townsperson, but i see no other candidate.
I can confirm that I was the target of the mafia.
I'll explain in detail once I get to work. I think we now know 2 of 3 mafia.
Mutton, we need to extend the deadline. This is big news.