Quote Originally Posted by Syme View Post
So to repeat myself: If you read reviews of this movie, you will find plenty of people airing the same criticisms that gwahir and I have made. That doesn't mean all reviewers hated it, but they DID all pretty much notice that the script, performances, and plot were weak.

Nice try though.



I enjoyed it too, as I said to UnreasonablyReasonable earlier in the thread. I had fun watching it, it looked great and it was an entertaining action movie. In fact I'll probably go see it again this week. It's numerous flaws don't stop it from being enjoyable, they are just somewhat disappointing coming from James Cameron, since he has a track record of making great sci-fi/action movies that don't suffer from those flaws. And honestly most of what I've said about it's flaws in this thread has been in response to people claiming those flaws don't exist; I' m not just shitting on it because I hated it so much or something like that.
Gwahir says "the story and characters are not at all engaging." Also "jake is irritating. there's not all that much to him, and his narration is largely needless." I take it you agree?

Sure, it's true to say "many" agree with these points, but certainly not most. Let's take a look at one of the articles from which you took quotes out of context:

"Mr. Cameron lays out the fundamentals of the narrative efficiently, grabbing you at once with one eye-popping detail after another and on occasion almost losing you with some of the comically broad dialogue. He’s a masterly storyteller if a rather less nimble prose writer. (He has sole script credit: this is personal filmmaking on an industrial scale.) Some of the clunkier lines (“Yeah, who’s bad,” Jake taunts a rhinolike creature he encounters) seem to have been written to placate those members of the Michael Bay demographic who might find themselves squirming at the story’s touchier, feelier elements, its ardent environmentalism and sincere love story, all of which kick in once Jake meets Neytiri, a female Na’vi (Zoë Saldana, seen only in slinky Na’vi form)."

Yes, SOME lines were written to appeal (according to this reviewer) to a "Michael Bay demographic." Oh no, I guess that means the dialogue completely sucks now...

Though I doubt this discussion has any serious potential. So probably just disregard all of this.